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Do you think $30 million is too much for the city to spend on a new library?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on February 23, 2006

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“That sounds a little high given that we already have many university libraries that are available to a large portion of our community.”

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“It is too much. The library we already have is completely fine. There are a lot of ways we could use that money.”

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“I don’t think it’s too much. I think anything that goes toward community education should be a priority for our city.”

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“You can never spend too much on libraries. The more the people know, the better the democracy is.”

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offtotheright 8 years, 2 months ago

I would have a section on HOW TO RUN A CITY!

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libraffe 8 years, 2 months ago

If I ran the library, I would have a section with instructional information about how-to use roundabouts and would have driving experts offer classes on the topic, too.

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Multidisciplinary 8 years, 2 months ago

6 news just said the city cut down the shrubs at the Harper intersection. It that old news? I didn't see it in the paper.

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Multidisciplinary 8 years, 2 months ago

I'm hoping all is well since we haven't heard. I wasn't up on whether it was their first, multi, full term etc. The silence...please let them just be very naturally busy! There were a couple of boys born in Lawrence yesterday.

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Gootsie 8 years, 2 months ago

Hey - do we have a Bob-ie doll yet or what?

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Jay_Z 8 years, 2 months ago

$30 million for a f'ing library?! Put the bong down Boog--fix the damn infrastructure first.

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RonBurgandy 8 years, 2 months ago

I wonder how long it will be before we have some news about The_Newest_Bob....

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Richard Heckler 8 years, 2 months ago

Where: 9th and New Hampshire Why: *It's practical and we know the library will not sit idle. It will be busy as always.

*Ideal companion to the arts center

*Coffee shops and a cafe or two nearby. Don't need these in the library as like Topeka.

*Avoids relocating fire department and senior center expense

*Avoids cost of rent to move library during construction

*Retrofit at current location may not be the best bang for the buck. Retrofitting takes time which means more dollars. Retrofitting is hard work.

*Retrofit likely would not save on cost of construction according to consultants.

*Expanding 9th and New Hampshire parking garage provides enough parking for art center and library plus street parking is available. Other sparsely used lots are also nearby.

*Primary public transportation hub at 9th & New Hampshire

*Two or three story building would blend well with existing new structures

*Would be convenient for parents/children needing a place to go during class or rehearsal breaks

*Sell the library to aid in financing new construction:

Perhaps some of existing one cent sales tax money could be applied to this project. Some things will need to sit on the back burner. There seems some implied rush on that long list. Rome was not built in a day. Patience over a new tax.

Street repairs are scheduled annually so sooner or later matters will be resolved. The location/schedule of repairs may need adjusting. Don't repair streets that are not in dire straights. Is there reason to panic over street conditions...probaly not. Schedule repairs accordingly with annual schedlules. Some new streets may have to wait.

This is not a new idea by any means as it's been on the table for awhile.

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beatrice 8 years, 2 months ago

ottr: but you should have seen the plans before they made all the cutbacks!

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offtotheright 8 years, 2 months ago

30 Million Dollar Library! Unfriggin believable!

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Marion Lynn 8 years, 2 months ago

Fatty_McButterpants wrote:

"Posted by Fatty_McButterpants (anonymous) on February 23, 2006 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pelliot: You read an awful lot like Marion. Hmm..."

I assure you that I am I, Don Quixote...

From the background:

(Uh, where's the darned script?

No, not that one!

Get your mukluks out of the fire and come in out of the Ivory snowlakes!

Where's Audrey?

You mean Nancy?

No, I mean Betty Jo.....

Oh, I got the script, OK?

Quiet down! The keyboard is on!)

Pelliot is not me nor am I he/she.

Thanks.

Marion.

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ljreader 8 years, 2 months ago

Can more floors (with elevators) be added to the current library? If so, it seems that could be accomplished for far less than 30 mil. proposed.

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Fatty_McButterpants 8 years, 2 months ago

Pelliot: You read an awful lot like Marion. Hmm...

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avhjmlk 8 years, 2 months ago

Bobling, oh Bobling! Wherefore are though, oh Bobling?

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Marion Lynn 8 years, 2 months ago

I was asked, so here we go!

(1) Obtain at fair market value or eminent domain if necessary the vacant lot on the West side of Vermont next to the Dr.'s office, pave it an put in meters.

(2) Obtain at fair market or through eminent domain the empty Allen Press parking lot and the old grocery store currently used by Allen Press as a warehouse; demolish it and use the entire thing for a metered parking lot.

I am not a fan of eminent domain but this would be a good use.

(3) Build the current library up to the max for which it is desinged.

(4) Bring the old library into ADA compliance, build a portico entrance on the East to meet ADA (Not all entracnes to an old building must be ADA compliant.). Move the retired center there.

(4) Crunch the old cop shop and City Hall; that thing has the historic significance of a 7-11 store. Pave it, put in nice trees, shrubberies, parking meters and well appointed walkways.

(5) Surround these new parking lots with nicely trimmed out brick/stone half-walls with flower planters on the tops, make them clean well-lighted places with Victrorian/Edwardian style street lamps.

(6) Purchase at market value or through eminent domain the old Masonic Temple, spend the money to revamp it and make it ADA compliant; close off parking in front of the building for a passenger unloading zone and use it for public and private functions.

(7) Purchase at market value less the TIFF fines or through eminent domain less the TIFF fines, the vacant lot at 9th and New Hamshire where the hotel will never be built and do up a similar parking lot; perhaps attaching it to the existing one but for God's sake, do it with some kind of style!

Yes, I know I just spent about 17 million bucks of the taxpayer's money.

Should my plan be adopted, I will send the city a bill for $1.3 million; 10% of the money that I saved it.

Thanks.

Marion.

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breeze 8 years, 2 months ago

So you think everybody wants or can go to the KU libraries, thus making LPL unnecessary? Good luck finding appropriate material for children's research or recreational reading. Good luck finding parking anywhere near where you need to go. Booktalks and bookvan visits for children in the city's summer parks programs and senior citizens all year long--yeah KU will do that. Ha! Public and academic libraries have different missions and different sources of funding, that's just how it is.

Many, many KU students do their research at LPL because they don't want to use the campus libraries. Also, the KU libraries are not managed very well and are in danger of becoming ineffective even for their own community.

The fact is, Lawrence PL needs a new, larger building to last for the decades ahead. For all the pride Lawrence takes in being progressive and superior to the rest of Kansas, put that talk into action and do it.

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avhjmlk 8 years, 2 months ago

I remember the first time I tried to use Watkins library when I was in high school. It was certainly not very public friendly. I agree with all of the reasons slpearson stated. In addition, it's not very handicapped-friendly, there are no kids books, and it's already crowded with university students. At least the public areas are.

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one_more_bob 8 years, 2 months ago

slpearson, good point, university libraries and public libraries are very different things, both in concept and execution.

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slpearson 8 years, 2 months ago

Like a few others who posted comments, I no longer live in Lawrence (born & raised there until age of 23), but I agree with Sunflower Sue about how branches are needed. When I last visited Lawrence in 2003, I was surprised to see how much Lawrence is GROWING, and branches are GREAT, here in the Phoenix, AZ, area. I believe that they're not just for metropolitan areas like this.

However, I disagree with the suggestions regarding the public's ability to use the KU libraries. I was no moron, and I attended KU for 3 years, but having worked at the LPL for several years, and trying to use the KU libraries, I always felt like the KU libraries were foreign countries. Imagine how others feel, when they don't want to drive & park on the university campus...And aren't familiar with the differences.

I pray that y'all continue to have real dialogue and committees formed for your suggestions and solutions. Growth can be tough, I know (it's getting too crowded here in Phoenix, so hubby and I hope to move out, soon)...So maintaining the important resources, like libraries and schools, are #1 priorities!

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avhjmlk 8 years, 2 months ago

Ich weiss nicht. Und Originaler Bob gibt uns keine Hilfe.

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beatrice 8 years, 2 months ago

I'm sticking with bobling for a boy, and bobble for a girl. Can't you just picture an adorable little bobble, or a little bobling - The Duplicate Bob. (Okay, neither can I really, but I'm sure he or she will be cute.)

For $30 mill, I'll bet you could get a bookmobile that reads to you as you sit comfortably in a massage chair.

pelliott: "The random nasty remarks make the point that hate rather than thought is the horse some people prefer to ride." Well said, pardner. There is wisdom in them thar words.

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wheremyshoes 8 years, 2 months ago

What kind of bookmobile can we get for $30M?

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Tony Kisner 8 years, 2 months ago

Put a measure for a sales tax increase on the ballot for funding. Anyone wanting to pay more for organic carrots at the Merc, will see the correlation of new library = expensive carrots. Not new library = increase mill levy on a tax bill that comes in the mail if I want it to or not. Need meeting rooms, I think the old library is sitting empty, the old Mason hall is sitting empty. KU has space all over.

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Kookamooka 8 years, 2 months ago

I imagine those improvements would amount to less than 30 million dollars. We just need to be more creative. I'd spend the money on attracting the best employees to run these establishments and less on the buildings. Especially when interesting buildings already exist.

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Kookamooka 8 years, 2 months ago

Use the Riverfront mall as the main, adult library with technology as a focus, Make the old Carnegie Library a new children's library with programming and security the focus, AND make the old masonic lodge the home for the Americana Music Academy. With the addition of more family friendly venues in Downtown, Lawrence could become a thriving tourist destination. Also....to pay for the library project...issue tax-free municipal bonds for old people to invest in. (more and more people will be looking for interest on their investment as the baby boomers retire!)

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pelliott 8 years, 2 months ago

Access to clean water could save millions of people and does daily. Good plumbing is essential to both private and public health. I hate spending money but library looks a better buy for this town than soccer fields, an ineffective, sexist and classist chamber of commerce and little flags that proclaim nothing. The figures seem to high but I was born in 48 and bought gas for 22 cents. I appreciate the honesty and thoughtfullness of Mr. Rundle and Mr. Highberger. The random nasty remarks make the point that hate rather than thought is the horse some people prefer to ride.

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cutny 8 years, 2 months ago

Macon 47...re: "could someone get some get some commissioners who want to run the city like a business?"

Guess what genius, that's the "job" of any community's citizens. Oh wait, let me guesss, you didn't vote because you a. were busy that day b. didn't like any of 'em c. consider your measly vote a waste of everybody's time d. would rather complain

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beatrice 8 years, 2 months ago

ms_c: "baited breath," is that the same as fish breath, just in smaller bites? :)

macon: "There are a lot of people in Lawrence that get up everyday , go To work come home, raise a family, and don't have all the lay about time the liberals do to enjoy the amenities booger and rundle want to provide them for FREE!"

Liberals just lay about, do we? Wish I'd known -- I would have taken the day off WORK! I could have stayed in my house, on which I pay TAXES! Then I would be more relaxed and not have to shout at the end of my SENTENCES! (Geez, the lengths some people will go to blame liberals for all things they don't like in this world. Don't blame the liberals, blame THE MAN!)

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Fatty_McButterpants 8 years, 2 months ago

One more thing. I know this is a little off-topic, but I saw a plumbing van with the stupidest saying on it. It said, "saving lives through plumbing". What?? Do their conversations go something like this:

Customer: "Oh, thank you, Mr. Plumber! You saved my life!"

Plumber: "You are certainly welcome, ma'am."

Customer: "I thought I would just die of constipation if I didn't get that toilet fixed."

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Fatty_McButterpants 8 years, 2 months ago

I'm a little new to the group. I believe that the $30 million the city could spend on a library would be a waste of time. Of course, this is nothing new for a city that pays for pointless research groups and ridiculous roundabouts that nobody knows how to use.

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badger 8 years, 2 months ago

I thought your comment seemed a little fishy.

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ms_canada 8 years, 2 months ago

I am embarrassed, that should read waiting with bated breath.

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badger 8 years, 2 months ago

I've always wondered what would happen if every few years, citizens voted on what they want their budget priorities to be. In more local government, the list could be, "Transportation (including roads and public transportation), the environment (including restriction enforcement, conservation, and parks), law enforcement, schools, social welfare programs, economic growth and planning." Federal government could take away 'law enforcement' and replace it with 'security' to include defense, add foreign aid and balancing the budget, and change 'economic growth and planning' to 'improving trade conditions.'

Then, those programs not in the top few (3, 5, whatever) would get maintenance budgets, enough to keep the lights on but not upgrade or overhaul, and the upgrades and additional special funding would go to the popularly chosen budget priorities.

It would either be the coolest system ever, or total collapse within ten years, and I can't decide which intrigues me more.

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ms_canada 8 years, 2 months ago

Being a foreigner, would I be allowed to comment on this. It is true that libraries were discussed a while ago on this board, as someone has already mentioned. At that time I described our library system. Granted. my city is 1 1/2 million strong, but I think the smae system on a smaller scale could apply in Lawrence. We have a very large Main Library in the heart of downtown and many branch libraries all over the city. I am a reader and I am frequently at my branch lib. It is always busy, busy, busy. Many young people on the computers, mom's with little ones in tow with large stacks of books in their little arms. We have CD's and DVD's to rent. There are story times for the little ones. In short a good library with easy accessability can be a great center for learning.
The young people that make use of my branch would probably never go downtown. That branch is about 10 min. from my home. About a two minute drive from my home is a small branch in the shopping mall. Not many books there but you can always order one brought over from a larger branch in a couple of days. My kids and grandkids are also readers In my opinion libraries are something we should never skimp on.
But 30 mil does seem a lot. Your city council should look deeper into better ways to invest in your cities education through libraries. You need more than one. That is my 4 cents (inflation) TOB, please, we are waiting with baited breath for news of little bobbie or bobette.

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gl0ck0wnr 8 years, 2 months ago

Insane.

Lawrence has one of the best Library systems available to the public at KU. We would be better served to renovate the current library and add a west branch. Have those locations focus primarily on literature for youth and adult fiction that the KU libraries may not carry. Institute an ILL system between the two systems so city customers don't even have to go up to campus.

All of that can be done for FAR less than $30 million.

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avhjmlk 8 years, 2 months ago

Remember, though, that building costs in smaller towns are a LOT different.

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southerngirl 8 years, 2 months ago

Wellsville built a Preschool-5th grade elementary building for 8 million just five years ago. That's 17 classrooms, a gym and cafeteria (separate rooms) library, offices, resource classrooms, computer lab (with some new computers) classrooms also each got a few new computers, furnishings and lots of parking on all sides of the school. Granted, they already had the land purchased, but even if you double or even triple the cost it still isn't 30 million. I think it could be done well for less than 30 million. That leaves several million for Centrists "damn roads".

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Centrist 8 years, 2 months ago

Or better still ... why not combine with the KU library!

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Centrist 8 years, 2 months ago

Hear, hear, Macon - well put!

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macon47 8 years, 2 months ago

this whole thing is not rocket science, but our commissioers booger and rundle are stuck on stupid

Did the "consultants' find out how many people actually use the library every day?. When they triple the size of it and usage triples, will that number Be enough to warrant spending $30 million? THIS SMELLS JUST LIKE OUR MT BUS SYSTEM. a lot of taxpayers monies being utilized By a small number of citizens.

I think we ought to let booger pick it all the way back to garnett, And rundle clog him self back to western ks. Then perhaps we Could get some commissioners that want to run the city like a business, Instead some gimmie gimme freebie fun for all program. Reminds me of "let them eat cake" fiddle de dee, Fun fun fun, till our daddy took the check book away. There are a lot of people in Lawrence that get up everyday , go To work come home, raise a family, and don't have all the lay about time the liberals do to enjoy the amenities booger and rundle want to provide them for FREE!

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Aiko 8 years, 2 months ago

Comparing a mansion to a large public library is like comparing a dog whistle to a douche bag!

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Centrist 8 years, 2 months ago

And another thing ... think about what kind of MANSION you could build for $30 million .. yeah!!!

Then you'll understand why us taxpayers are so upset with government waste of OUR money.

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Centrist 8 years, 2 months ago

$30 MILLION dollars for a building?????

F**k this, I'm moving. I'm sick of Lawrence and its "hip"-ocrisy" ....

Fix the damn ROADS!!!!!!

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cutny 8 years, 2 months ago

Build it.

The cost is not that high, and it's not going to come down.

Private property taxes have gone up faster than any other tax in the last 20 years and at a rate at least double that of commercial property taxes. It's not going to stop, so the community might as well get as much as we can out of the system, since the system is clearly getting as much as they can out of the citizen.

As for the argument that it's going to cost $1000 if 1 out of 3 citizens use the library, I've kind of had it with that line of reasoning. I don't have kids, but a significant chunk of my property taxes fund the public schools system. So what? You want to live in Utopia? Go build it.

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Multidisciplinary 8 years, 2 months ago

Build a branch out west , and give people a free bus pass home from either if they think getting there is an issue. It's 15 miles round trip for me to use the comps down there, and I'll skip the horrors of that in this discussion. I gave in and got the net at home, but the price is killing me. Gas, sitter, or take the kids...wait an hour for the comp then be on for an hour with kids along is tough for them, but necessary all too often.FYI..I'd never be able to use the bus, this thought was for others who could.

PS, that doesn't mean build one at the present site and loose the parking there.

This town is falling apart, any library can WAIT.

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beatrice 8 years, 2 months ago

Like others, I no longer live in Lawrence, so I hope you don't mind my commenting on this, or using up the bandwidth. Last I heard, there are around 80,000 permanent residents in Lawrence, correct? That makes the proposed sum, according to my handy calculator, $375 per person. If one in three actually use the library, and I doubt that the number is that high, that places the cost per user at more than $1000 each. Those numbers are too high, in my humble opinion.

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Gootsie 8 years, 2 months ago

OMG - fix the darn sewers and streets first!!! Or else when I have a basement full of surprises and undigested vitamins, I can now either go to the park or the library. But who will do my laundry???

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mskeys 8 years, 2 months ago

has anyone suggested having the books and magazines downtown and opening several computer and media sites in various other locations? It seems that the current building could house more books and( ebooks) if the space devoted to computer terminals and meeting rooms was moved elsewhere.. Also the kids doing homework might like to have places in other neighborhoods. Another idea would be to build a new senior center( somewhere else) more adapted to its use and have the library take over that site. Their building is not designed for them.

think outside the BOX!

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badger 8 years, 2 months ago

Libraffe, people can recognize the value of a community resource and still want the decisions to be made in a fiscally responsible manner.

I think a town needs libraries, art, and green spaces to be a viable community. However, I think that before it can make those things a priority, it needs functioning roads, economic stability, a strong and effective social welfare program (truly temporary assistance that helps people get successful instead of just fed), adequate and skilled law enforcement, and well-maintained schools to be more than a brilliant and glorious moment in history, when a community based in intellectual enlightenment and social consciousness flared briefly and then collapsed under the weight of its mundane and uncollected garbage.

Thus, some of us are going to say, "Culture and enlightenment are all well and good, but if you can't get to the library because the streets around it are closed, how useful is it, really, as a community resource?"

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sunflower_sue 8 years, 2 months ago

Reader, Oh pleeaase! Are you suggesting that we just do away with parking? Silly me to be thinking of a place to park when I live 10 miles away!

Libraffe, an 8th grader would just shell out the money and not give proper thought to whether or not he/she was getting a good deal. You seem to be with those who believe: "live within your means, even if you have to borrow to do so!"

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libraffe 8 years, 2 months ago

I doubt that many of the people reading and responding to this post have a clear idea what the appropriate dollar amount would be. It's fun to get an 8th graders opinion, but doesn't it seem obvious that he/she is going to think $30 million is too much to spend on anything? Lawrence is the progressive independent thinker's oasis in Kansas. Doesn't it make sense that the library should reflect that prioritization of information and education? Public libraries are at the heart of a community. Visit the Topeka Library any day of the week and at any time. Just look around at who is using the facility and what they are doing. All ages and classes and races. Topeka is a town with its fair share of problems (:crime, Phelps:), but the people who live in that community can and should feel incredibly proud of that library.

The popularity of the Internet has done nothing to diminish the need for and the use of public libraries. People need "third places" actual physical places where they can come together for meetings, for study groups, and for community. If you have kids, won't you want to take them to storytime? Don't you want people who cannot afford to buy their own books or who cannot afford to have a home computer to have opportunities, which can actually help empower them and maybe even help them better their economic situation? Are there any other institutions in our society that serve this bipartisan role in our supposedly democratic society? For a town that values education and informed thinking as highly as Lawrence does, the library should be beautiful, innovative, and a source of community pride. Let's support this project get involved with it it's OUR library that is being built after all.

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Reader 8 years, 2 months ago

Oh, Please! sunflower_sue! Where Does Anyone Park, When They Venture Into The "Downtown" Domain? As For A "30 Million" Dollar Library? Just Another Pretty Flower, In The Middle Of A Already Over Priced Weed Garden!

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armyguy 8 years, 2 months ago

Lawrence has the largest library system in the state, and one of the argest in the country. They are open to everyone as they are state funded. It is called the KU library system. While some at KU tend to think that it is only for students, any state funded libaray is open to the public. I had to remind sombody at the law library of that not too long ago.

Take to 30 mil and fix some pot holes or sidewalks, or better yet, I think the city could build a few more roundabouts.

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sunflower_sue 8 years, 2 months ago

Didn't we already hash this topic? Or has it just come down to money? I'm still for branch libraries. Take the books to the people. Sure, do some upgrades on the existing library, but you can build a lot for $30 mil and I'm in favor of spreading it out.

Marion, If you expand the current library to the south, where will you park? There is too little parking now having that lot shared with the senior citizen building and the city pool in the summer.

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christie 8 years, 2 months ago

Yes Yes Yes. But Please, make it worthy.

Oh, and by the way, I'll do it for $29,000,000.

That is a FIRM offer.

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badger 8 years, 2 months ago

I think the city infrastructure should be a higher priority, but like southerngirl I don't live there any more so it's not my money.

The library isn't just a book repository, it's a community resource and they do a lot of meetings and gatherings and so forth.

I think the updates to the library are a good idea, but I'm a little skeptical that they need 30 million bucks worth of updates.

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optimist 8 years, 2 months ago

This is a boondoggle. I for the life of me can't see how they can find enough ways to spend $30,000,000 on a public library. I'm not opposed to building a new library but I can't believe it couldn't be done for less than half that cost.

This city commission has proven to be very innovative. They have found creative ways to stifle the tax base by discouraging business growth and investment (i.e. "living wage", restrictive tax abatement policy, the 6th/Wak development and policies to restrict growth). It's fair to say they've also shown real creativity in blowing money (i.e. roundabouts, legal fees for fighting WalMart, and now this library).

$30 million dollars; really!?

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lunacydetector 8 years, 2 months ago

why don't they put the library on the internet, then we wouldn't need a new $30 million building?

are there really THAT many people who use the library? the KU libraries can be used by lawrencians already. why not spend very little promoting that idea instead of spending so much money for a library that caters only to the downtown populace - paid for by people who live in west lawrence?

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southerngirl 8 years, 2 months ago

LOL derf...

Obviously I no longer live/work in Lawrence so I can't spend your tax dollars, but the library you have is a wonderful resource. The librarians do so much in the way of community outreach and are resourceful in using the facility that they have. There is a definate need for updating the current resources and structure. I think 30 million is a bit high, but I also think the library it a terrific investment in Lawrence's future.

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derf 8 years, 2 months ago

What's in them libarys? They told me its books mostly. I had a book once when I was a little kid. It was about a monkey. I don't know what a libary is spose to cost. But, its OK with me cause I really liked that book about the monkey. It seems like alot of money for a bunch of books but maybe they'll have some good ones in there. Its OK, as long as they keep the pernorgrafy out of there.

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macon47 8 years, 2 months ago

the cost of the facilty should not be a concern. spend spend spend, thats why our property values have doubled in the past 10 yrs free parks, free books , free computers. free free free. let the others pay for your folly thats what lawrence is all about

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beatrice 8 years, 2 months ago

bowhunter: "... BE FISCALLY responsible and stop spending money you don't have which means higher taxes for everyone." Wouldn't you just love to hear President Bush make such a statement!

30 million seems too expensive to me. There should be less expensive alternatives.

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Marion Lynn 8 years, 2 months ago

If ever a "Task Force" or "Study Group" was needed, it would be for one to very carefully examine the incestuous relationships that exist between the City Of Lawrence, Kansas and several local architectural firms.

I notice that the figure of "$30 million" seems to have an almost magical significance around these parts.

$30 million to rebuild the streets.

$30 million for a new library.

A city debt of what?

The face and usage of libraries is changing and do not misunderstand me, I advocate for learning and libraries but at the same time, the internet is changing the manner in which libraries are used and an ever-decreasing percentage of the population actually uses physical facilities.

This ongoing and significant process needs to be carefully examined before such an amount is spent.

Additionally, it has been shown that the per-space cost of parking garages in Lawrence, Kansas runs 50% higher than the national average at any given time.

Old decrepit buildings could be purchased, knocked down, the land paved over into decent outdoor ots for far less than the construction costs of another monument to an architect.

I'm not certain as to the covenants regarding the use of the old library building but the Carnegie foundation stuck them in there, and there are restrictions on what can be done with the building and land without having it revert to the foundation as I recall.

If a new library is to be built it should be on the present site with improvements to the existing structure and expansion to the south.

The proposed site on New Hampshire is nothing but a smoke screen to cover up the lining of the pockets of the land owners and the architectural firms involved.

Thanks.

Marion.

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neopolss 8 years, 2 months ago

Potholes and sewer lines. Let's work on that Lawrence. I'd love a new library, but this city's infrastructure is among the worst I've seen. For the price of ONE roundabout, we could have fixed multiple issues in and around the community. That to me is worth waiting at a traffic light or four-way stop. And the SLT? For crying out loud, go further south and avoid the freaking wetlands, and you'll have zero opposition. Why must the city be so stubborn on where it is built?

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KsTwister 8 years, 2 months ago

Raising taxes to pay for this must be on a ballot (by itself),this city is overtaxed as it is. By the time we are taxed for new parks,sewer treatment and infrastructure repairs,streets and roundabouts it may well be that fewer people will live here to ever use it. City Hall needs to collapse like everything around it.

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blue73harley 8 years, 2 months ago

That "the price will only increase with time" is true of anything. Fix the city infrastructure first.

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grubesteak 8 years, 2 months ago

I love going to the library, but Lawrence doesn't even compare to others in the area for a city this size. This project is way overdue.

Yes, spend the money. It's a small price to pay for all those who will benefit from it.

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Richard Heckler 8 years, 2 months ago

I say go for it. Obviously it's a project that will be done. The price will only increase with time. Go with a new building at 9th and New Hampshire rather than retrofit the old. Sell the old downtown building and of course put that money into the new library. Don't give that piece of real estate away. Libraries are a practical expenditure of funds.

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Bowhunter99 8 years, 2 months ago

Here we go again.... the minute the city budget is NOT completely out of whack, someone finds ways to completely throw it off.

How about we build the new library RIGHT after we're done with the K-10 project so we can have a complete loop around the South side of the City in order to relief the problem on 6th and 23rd Streets?

How about we put that money towards the sewer treatment plant we need?

Does the city of Lawrence have a 30MM surplus? If so, build it. If not, then BE FISCALLY responsible and stop spending money you don't have which means higher taxes for everyone.

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