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Are you following the coverage of Hurricane Katrina?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on September 1, 2005

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“I am. It’s quite the tragedy. I don’t know how our country is going to deal with something of that magnitude.”

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“A little bit. It’s really devastating. I actually have a sister who was vacationing in the area, and she actually went east to get away.”

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“Not too much. I’ve heard about it on NPR, but I don’t watch TV.”

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“Yes. It’s awful that the people have to go through it.”

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majic12 9 years, 8 months ago

Now we'll see what this government is made of.

Hong_Kong_Phooey 9 years, 8 months ago

KsjKC: so I guess you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning and decided to completely ignore the question and, instead, b*tch about someone's off-the-cuff remark.

I've been following the story of the Hurricane but only to a certain degree. With disasters of this magnitude it is easy to become wrapped up in the 24/7 news coverage and it can become quite depressing.

Topside 9 years, 8 months ago

Isn't Jerk off spelled "jerk-off" with a hyphen?

Jayhawk226 9 years, 8 months ago

I'm a "news nerd"...

...I have found myself glued to the tv truly amazed and in awe about the aftermath of the hurricane.

Even the smallest things seem to have been affected--such as out-of-state college students and wildlife. Where do they also go? What do they also do?

An earthquake, forest fire, tornado and most floods...will still allow residents and tourists to return within a few days. But they're being told water will remain through February.

Yikes. What the heck do all those people do? Amazing.

KsjKC 9 years, 8 months ago

The teacher quoted as saying, "Not too much. I've heard about it on NPR. I don't watch TV."

Well, zippa-dee-doo-dah; this isn't a pledge drive, so you can cut that drivel. My true rant is this: Are we supposed to believe that National Public Radio DOES NOT cover really big stories? Just little ones like how Sesame Street characters hand out little tiny condoms to pre-schoolers?

NPR is an exceptionally in-touch and impactful organization ESPECIALLY when it comes to national news. So unless this individual listens only when music programs are on-air (and in so doing sets a bad example as a teacher by electing to not be informeed) she is listening to some version of NPR with which most of us are unfamiliar.

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

I didn't take the teacher's comment like that. It sounds like the teacher, like you and me, enjoys listening to NPR and values the information that we all get from it. I think her "not much" comment was just saying that she isn't following every word that comes out in the media about the hurricane destruction.

As for myself, I have been following the news, but not like I did in the days after September 11th. I am too busy to follow every word and outlets like CNN start repeating themselves if you watch them too long.

MyName 9 years, 8 months ago

Cealach:

With New Orleans, at least, it was quite simple why they didn't get there sooner: The highways and railways were unpassable, the airport was flooded, and the harbor was, and still is, unpassable. That left helicoptors, which can't transport large numbers of troops (and were needed for search and rescue anyway), and amphibious vehicles, and alot of those are being used over in Iraq.

They just got the airport going today. I don't know when they got the highway open, but sometime before that, and the railways are still down, I think. They need to put up buoys in the harbor channel still so it's closed. The main thing that would have helped is having more helicoptors, but alot of those are in Iraq and Afganistan as well.

KsjKC 9 years, 8 months ago

Mea Culpa ... to waking up on the foul side of the mattress and a very nearly sincere apology to those taking offense...almost...

My frustration persists : We are not well informed--sometimes by our own making...Rant over--I go in search of decaf and validation...

italianprincess 9 years, 8 months ago

I am as much as I can. I have a friend in LA who lives in Baton Rouge who finally got power back on and instant messaged me. He told me that things are really bad and that its going to take years to rebuild.

I can't believe all the destruction that has happened out south. Everytime I think of the man ( Harvey Jackson ) who was holding his wifes hand when she was washed away I want to cry. The news reporter who was talking to him was even in tears. This man has nothing left now along with others do. His wife told him to let go because she couldn't hold on anymore. She told him to take care of the children and grandchildren as she floated away. He doesn't know if shes alive or dead, but she hasn't been found yet.

I'm in the process with city officials and others to plan a benefit concert. I have contacted the red cross as the organization where all the donations with go. I just started this yesterday during my lunch break so it may be a bit before I can make this happen. I'm hoping all goes well and merchants around Lawrence will pull together with me. It would be great if everyone ( I know gas is high right now ) can come out to the benefit, dig deep in the their pockets and donate. Every little bit counts right now for these people who were effected by Katrina.

I will keep you posted on the progress of this and hopefully we can all pitch in and help out.

trinity 9 years, 8 months ago

italianprincess, your concert idea rocks and i thank you and will support it with all the $ i can. harvey jackson's story made me cry, also.

question of the day-yup i'm following the coverage. so shoot me i'm a tv news junkie, my remote is getting weary of my surfing from one news channel to the next. that tired old "i don't watch tv" bs just makes me chuckle.

KsjKC, i musta gotten out of bed on the wrong side myself. i laughed in agreement when i read your first statement. i raise my cup of highly leaded coffee to you.

neopolss 9 years, 8 months ago

HKP, I've seen a few off-the-cuff remarks of your own about the commentors before grin

I have been watching the coverage, and to be quite honest, most of that city will need to be razed, especially the homes. Even when the water drains, most will have such extensive damage (or mold) that it will be unsafe to live in. I'd start building a brand new city tacked on the higher ground near the french quarter. Leave the rest as a tourist attraction. Maybe build a hurricane theme amusement park that winds through the debris!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years, 8 months ago

The death and destruction of this disaster dwarfs anything that any terrorist attack, with the possible exception of a well-placed and massive thermonuclear explosion, could cause.

And why has it happened? Almost certainly global warming contributed to the strength of this massive storm, and the destruction of the coastal wetlands and swamps removed the protection that once existed for cities and development further inland.

And what has been the Bush Administration's response? Denial about the crisis of global warming, elimination of environmental protections for fragile eco-systems, and the diversion of millions in funds from the Army Corps of Engineers' efforts at shoring up the levy system around New Orleans in favor of the war in Iraq.

This bozo is truly humbled by the sheer incompetence of this administration.

Byrne 9 years, 8 months ago

They didn't build it under sea level ... the city has been sinking ever since its founding in 1718. Drying out the land causes it to settle, and holding back the floods from the Mississippi prevented new soil from coming in.

And now it's well and truly messed up, as was inevitable. (Too bad about the cuts to the levee funding that were made to fund the war ... that's gonna be a political firestorm.)

trueninetiesgirl 9 years, 8 months ago

yes very much so, i have 28 family member missing in thelouisiana area, hope to find them all safe.........no word yet.........

acg 9 years, 8 months ago

NO was built on marshland, as was most of what was erected on the Gulf Coast. The city has been sinking inch by inch ever since it's founding, Byrne is right on the money there. I grew up down in Louisiana, my family is there, and in Mississippi. The whole area is rich with history and flavor, but I think it's time we let it go. They need to just let that land on the coast grow to be marshland again, the way it was originally intended. Humans have to stop being so arrogant in the face of nature and realize that we do not have the upper hand in anything, really.

I was watching the coverage, a lot, but last night I had to turn it off, have a good cry and go to bed. My cousin David is missing. He's from Pascagoula. No one has heard anything from him since a few hours before the storm made land fall. It's hard to watch and know that this is going on a mere few hundred miles south of us. This is stuff we're used to seeing happen to third world nations.

I want to see the celebrities, btw, have a big fund raiser telethon like they do for disasters in other countries. If I don't see some major outpouring of support I'm going to be pissed, especially when you consider how quickly we hop up to go clean up other nation's disasters.

Topside 9 years, 8 months ago

Also, I'm not surprised many people didn't leave. New Orleans is a "poor" town in several respects. I don't know any concrete numbers, but there were tons of people there when I visited (twice) that were definitely living at or below poverty level. THey weren't all just stubborn and decided to wait it out they just had no means of leaving. Next, time I hope the city puts that bus evac. into effect BEFORE the Hurricane comes.

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crohan1978 9 years, 8 months ago

I knew it wouldn't be long before some jerk off blamed Bush. Go talk to any meteorologist, and they'll tell you global warming is not the reason for this. Hurricanes go in cycles, you'll have really active periods for a few years and really dead periods. Also, everyone was freaking out in the 70's about global cooling, and now that we are having warm bouts, its global warming. FAct is, weather experts say there is absolutely no proof that global warming has anything to do w/ these hurricanes, because historically, there is a pattern of cycles in hurrican activity, and we are in a very active cycle right now. If you are going to try to say its the intensity, that is crap too, because look at how intense some of those hurricanes were in the 60's, like Camisle!! Don't be stupid people!! New Orlean's has known they would be in trouble for decades if they got a direct hit, this didn't all just happen under Bush's watchful eye. You extremist lefties are crazy!

wichita_reader 9 years, 8 months ago

I've caught a little bit of the TV coverage, but I get most of my news from this thing I'm at right now. I spend most of my TV time watching sports. Amazing how the forces of mother nature, i.e. tsunamis, hurricans, etc., can make a terrorist attack look small.

YDP crack me up. Because someone doesn't watch TV and maybe isn't the most attractive female they're a jerk? Come on.

acg 9 years, 8 months ago

Actually, crohan, they were talking to people from FEMA and other gov't agencies last night on the news re: the levees and why they were built to withstand a class 3 hurricane but not a 4 or 5 and the answers were all the same "cost/benefit analyses". So the gov't has some culpability when it comes to making sure that city was at its safest. I'm thinking Bush didn't have anything to do with it as this was done before his time but you can bet some bureacratic a**hole somewhere did.

Liberty 9 years, 8 months ago

It is sad to see the total wipe out of that city.

Wonder if it is true that the feds cut the funding (diverting the money to the war in Iraq) that keeps the wall between the ocean and the city in good repair?

Maybe people will look into the sky and see the weather control plane sorties in the skies now and think outside of the box a little bit???

http://www.carnicom.com

ms_canada 9 years, 8 months ago

Yes, I am watching CNN. But as someone above here said, they do get repetitious. A couple from my church live down there temporarily, working and I was concerned about them. Their daughter informed me yesterday that they are ok but all their belongings are gone. We were in a devastating earthquake in Guatemala (40,000 dead) a few years back and I know the state of shock that so many in LA are going through. IP I commend you for your efforts to help and I sincerely hope it goes off well.

Farmers_Daughter 9 years, 8 months ago

Best site I've found for actual area info and more than any news station will give is the NOLA.com site; it's the NO Times Picayune Paper online, and has parish reports/help requests/missing people info requests/housing and job offers, and more. So in answer to the question-YES.

http://www.nola.com/

Topside 9 years, 8 months ago

THanks, I can always count on one of the Bobs to know.
Also, I definitely agree with TOB. Some things just don't need to be politicized, S#!T Happens!
In retrospect It seems that there needs to be better planning on both the citizens and the city itself for evac procedures. I know there are a lot of poor, but if you live in a hurricane area you should have a backup plan. I know people are hurt, tired, and frustrated with the losses, but some of the interviews I see act like it is up to the government to save them. Save yourselves folks! Is self preservation dead in today's America?

crohan1978 9 years, 8 months ago

ACG, that is exactly what I said, they knew this would happen if they got hit, because the levees were only good for up to a cat 3 storm. Is the gov't somewhat to blame for this, of course. Think about it though, if we tried to stonewall ourselves from every possible disaster, we would be in so much debt, it wouldn't even be funny. They kinda have to look at things like an insurance company, and they have to figure out what the risks are. The chances of New Orleans getting practicially nailed, head on, by a Cat 4 or 5 storm, was slim, and the cost/benefit just wasn't there. It sucks, and its horrible, but it happened, and now we need to take care of it. Its horrible to see whats going on down there. Stuff like this brings out the best in people, and the worst in people, and unfortunately, we're seeing a lot of the worst in people coming out of New Orleans.

feeble 9 years, 8 months ago

Bush has been asking for cuts to FEMA for years, Gov't has been only too happy to oblige.

"...Among emergency specialists, 'mitigation' -- the measures taken in advance to minimize the damage caused by natural disasters -- is a crucial part of the strategy to save lives and cut recovery costs. But since 2001, key federal disaster mitigation programs, developed over many years, have been slashed and tossed aside. FEMA's Project Impact, a model mitigation program created by the Clinton administration, has been canceled outright. Federal funding of post-disaster mitigation efforts designed to protect people and property from the next disaster has been cut in half. Communities across the country must now compete for pre-disaster mitigation dollars.

In addition, the White House has pushed for privatization of essential government services, including disaster management, and merged FEMA into the Department of Homeland Security -- where, critics say, natural disaster programs are often sidelined by counter-terrorism programs. Along the way, morale at FEMA has plummeted, and many of the agency's most experienced personnel have left for work in other government agencies or private corporations..."

http://www.bestofneworleans.com/dispatch/2004-09-28/cover_story.html

"Before FEMA was condensed into Homeland Security Ă… it responded much more quickly," says Walter Maestri, director of Jefferson Parish's Office of Emergency Management. Maestri has worked with FEMA for eight years. "Truthfully, you had access to the individuals who were the decision-makers. The FEMA administrator had Cabinet status. Now, you have another layer of bureaucracy. FEMA is headed by an assistant secretary who now has to compete with other assistant secretaries of Homeland Security for available funds. And elevating houses is not as sexy as providing gas masks."

Maestri is still awaiting word from FEMA officials as to why Louisiana, despite being called the "floodplain of the nation" in a 2002 FEMA report, received no disaster mitigation grant money from FEMA in 2003 ("Homeland Insecurity," Sept. 28). Maestri says the rejection left emergency officials around the state "flabbergasted."

http://www.bestofneworleans.com/dispatch/2004-10-05/commentary.html

Farmers_Daughter 9 years, 8 months ago

I keep wondering why weather modification isn't an option. It works in many plains states to lessen the severity of the storms that are treated (thru cloud seeding), and one would think a larger treatment or variation of the program would help. Why not?

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

IP, I Commend your efforts to help out by organizing a benefit concert. I'll back you, girlfriend!

It is heart wrenching to see all that is happening down there. We DO look like a 3rd world country. I'll do my own small part and pray for the families involved.

I disagree that NO will be wiped off the map. Maybe I'm just optimistic, but we humans are like ants. We will rebuild time and time again, even if we know it will just get knocked down in the future. And I wouldn't blame them, one bit. Here I am, sitting next to the New Madrid fault and in tornado alley and I have the audacity to call the others crazy???

italianprincess 9 years, 8 months ago

I have been reading the posts this morning and I do hope that all of you in here who have family out south.

I do hope and pray that you hear from your family and that they made it through and are safe.

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

My heart and prayers go out to all of you who are now concerned for your friends and loved ones because of Katrina and to those who were directly impacted by the hurricane.

jshaw 9 years, 8 months ago

May the Lord help you, Topside, if your life ever makes a turn for the worst. What if it was you who found yourself poor and in a wheelchair do to some misfortune. What if you didn't have any family members or friends with the means to get you out of harm's way. I'm all for being self sufficient, but come on. Have a little compassion.

italianprincess 9 years, 8 months ago

True and Sunflower,

Thanks for all your support. Its going to take time as I have alot of work ahead of me to put this together.

Contacting bands and hoping they will play for free is one step. I would like music of all types for people to enjoy. Getting grocery stores to supply food and drinks is another. I figure if we can get them to sell food and drinks we can raise money that way. Also have more things for children like face painting for $1.00 maybe even the balloon man will make animal balloons for a $1.00 also.

Like I said it is going to take awhile to gather people together to make this happen, so all I can do is hope and pray that these people have a heart for those who have suffered.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

TOB, cloud seeding 101: http://www.nawcinc.com/wmfaq.html

Mind you, I'm not a proponent of this, just thought I'd share the info for info's sake.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

IP, If you could get LJW to do a human interest piece (and I certainly don't see why they wouldn't), you will gain much support. Call them. Get a contact # put in for those that want to help.

Just a reminder to all those here that have friends/family who work outside. It's still hotter than he!!'s kitchen out there. Please make sure they are keeping their fluid intake up. (preferably a sport's drink and not just water). We were reminded "the hard way" yesterday...and we really know better. Thanks for reading my PSA. :)

feeble 9 years, 8 months ago

TOB:

The levees weren't finished, and in some cases, weren't maintained, due to budget cuts. Our war in the Mid-east/east asia has been funded at the expense of our national infrastructure.

http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001051313

"Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars"

"In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness."

"On June 8, 2004, Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; told the Times-Picayune: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."

"Also that June, with the 2004 hurricane season starting, the Corps' project manager Al Naomi went before a local agency, the East Jefferson Levee Authority, and essentially begged for $2 million for urgent work that Washington was now unable to pay for. From the June 18, 2004 Times-Picayune:

"The system is in great shape, but the levees are sinking. Everything is sinking, and if we don't get the money fast enough to raise them, then we can't stay ahead of the settlement," he said. "The problem that we have isn't that the levee is low, but that the federal funds have dried up so that we can't raise them."

The panel authorized that money, and on July 1, 2004, it had to pony up another $250,000 when it learned that stretches of the levee in Metairie had sunk by four feet. The agency had to pay for the work with higher property taxes. The levee board noted in October 2004 that the feds were also now not paying for a hoped-for $15 million project to better shore up the banks of Lake Pontchartrain."

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

One other global geological event that is happening that might, I stress might, be having an effect on our weather system and tectonic plate movements, is the weakening of the earth's magnetic field and the accelerated movement of the earth's magnetic North Pole. Throughout the eons, the earth's magnetic pole has reversed itself many times. There is a record of those occurances in the Mid-Atlantic Ridge where successive rock layers have iron molecules lined up in opposite directions. Anyway, scientific models show we are way overdue for a reversal of the magnetic field. These models also show that before they happen, the magnetic field weakens and the poles increase the rate at which they drift. Both of these things are happening right now. The magnetic north pole is moving from Canada to Iceland at an increasing rate. A weakened magnetic fields allows more charged particles from the sun to enter our atmosphere exposing more life to radiation and allowing our protective atmosphere to be siphoned off by the solar winds. Who knows what havoc that might be having on our weather or the movement of the plates.

To learn more, visit: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

TOB, did you get my "I'm not a proponent of this" disclaimer? ;) I don't think it is effective either. And I really don't know if they still practice this anywhere or not. I'm not sure it's hoodoo voodoo, as I don't think any dolls were stuck with pins in the process, but you're right...just bunk!

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

TOB, that Hatfield story is a hoot. Had never heard of the man. Smooch back at ya.

And TOB, you need to follow that coffe with a sport's drink if you plan on spending many hours outside today.

Topside 9 years, 8 months ago

jshaw-c'mon dude, did you even read my post! I said poor people were having problems getting out and probably didn't have the means. Also, I figured it went without stating that people in wheelchairs, nursing homes, hospitals need help. DUH, the fact that we have to state that is rediculous. Its like you don't want to talk about issues you just want to argue when you write statements like that. Also, I put some blame on the city for not recognizing the number of needy citizens that needed help evacuating. However, there were some people who had been moved to higher ground yelling at the newspeople beeging for help. Some of them were capable of walking to a local shelter or something. I think we are more agreement than you would like to think, but you have probably stopped reading already to post an argument.
I just posted that question because it seems nowadays that everyone expects the gov., or city, to fix all their problems for them. Some people expect the gov. to save them, not realizing some things are out of the goverments control (nobody can beat mother nature), rather than putting together a plan for emergencies. j ALso, many people have a bad case of "this won't happen to me". Hey I live in Kansas, I make sure the basement has the weather radio, a few bottles of water etc...just in case we get into a storm.

Jayhawk226 9 years, 8 months ago

I suppose it has become my "schtick" to make reference to the following:

But I'm surprised we have made it to 10:30am without an recitation of biblical verses/passages regarding this topic.

(We have already managed to beat Bush down...I'm assuming the verse-quoting is next?!!?)

wichita_reader 9 years, 8 months ago

One really sad aspect of the hurricane is that I'm afraid many folks with property damage won't be covered by their insurance. Although many have hurricane insurance, flood insurance is a whole separate policy, I think. It's my understanding that most of the damage in New Orleans was caused by flooding, which, of course was caused by the hurricane, but probably defined out of the hurricane insurance policy.

Anyone ever see Chris Rock's bit on insurance companies? Hilarious!

raven 9 years, 8 months ago

w_r: It is true that flood insurance is a whole seperate policy. It is regulated by the Federal Government. Any insurance company should be able to write these and most mortgage companies require them if you are in any kind of a flood zone.

Staci Dark Simpson 9 years, 8 months ago

IP- Good for you!! I hope you get the concert idea rolling. That is a great idea.

I can't believe how bad it is down there. I have never seen such devastation in the US before. I hope everyone is giving what they can and thanking their lucky stars that you still have the basic necessities of life. I think everyone needs to donate, even if you only have $5, that will feed someone. I agree it is a shame that people are blaming this on Bush. I had to snicker last night while watching CNN when the commentator said, "When congress gets back from vacation their 1st priority will be the hurricane" . I think this should take a little precedence over vacation. Don't u?

raven 9 years, 8 months ago

Yes, personally I would make sure to keep my flood insurance no matter what. However, some people, I have paid it all these years and never needed it. Plus some people don't know that it is seperate. You would be surprised how many people don't know.

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

Speaking of keeping current in the news, does anyone know any news coming out of Afghanistan? I hear little snipets about a downed helicopter every now and then, but the war is not covered like the war in Iraq is. I have no idea how many soldiers we have over there, if other countries have troops over there, what percentage of Talibani and Al Qaeda troops have been knocked out, what we are doing politically with the Pakistani government to figure out a way to drive the enemy out of Pakistan or kill then there without causing a civil war in Pakistan since so many tribes support Bin Laden. Why has the media seem to have forgotten Afghanistan?

I tried to google for more info and couldn't find anything meaningful or giving the big picture.

italianprincess 9 years, 8 months ago

Has anyone heard anything about the other states that got hit hard?

The news seems to be showing only NO and not the others. Why is that anyway? Why leave two other states out when they got hit hard also.

mr_daniels 9 years, 8 months ago

A devastating act of God! Lord have mercy on them all.

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

I have seen a good amount of coverage on Bay St. Louis, Biloxi, and Gulf Port on CNN, and I'm not even watching it all the time. Merrill, I went to that site, and I saw either repeats of small stories published by other news magazines or anti-war stories about Iraq. Nothing that addressed the big issues in Afghanistan.

The Original Bob: Yeah, I have seen soccer games for kids that young. They are very funny. News organizations do always try to still each other's stories. Perhaps I'll write a few news organizations and ask for some coverage of Afghanistan.

MasterBlue 9 years, 8 months ago

Anyone ever thought that this wouldn't be half as bad as it is if people would have just left town when the mayor told them to evacuate?

Carmenilla 9 years, 8 months ago

A lot of people couldn't leave town. Some were dependent on public transportation which was shut down. Very little options there for those with no money, no way out.....

I'm trying not to watch too much coverage. I go to NO for the Jazz Festival and can't bear to see the city wash away. Someone else wondered about the other states/cities hit. I've heard Biloxi is pretty rough. Need to find out more I guess.

coolmarv 9 years, 8 months ago

Who said that dude Elaine was a dude?

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

I just saw on CNN Headline News a BP gas station's sign for gas at $5.87 a gallon for the cheap stuff, $6.07 for the premium kind. They just showed snap shots of prices near the area affected by Katrina because the prices are changing so fast no one has a good idea of what the average cost is.

Topside 9 years, 8 months ago

enochville-They will probably get fined, or penalized just like some of those gas stations did after 9-11. That's what I heard anyway from a gov. official on the news. If you are gouging people for gas it would suck to be the station on CNN, hard to deny guilt on that one!

Topside 9 years, 8 months ago

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Topside 9 years, 8 months ago

I have broken enough cameras in my day. What's one more going to prove.

Topside 9 years, 8 months ago

BTW-I wasn't making fun of the way the guy/gal looked. I was taking pity on the guy ( if it is one) that his parents named him Elaine. That's all. It was coolmarv who suggested that the picture is of a woman. Then oops, sorry. Based on that little picture I thought Elaine was a man. Sorry Elaine.

wlf2527 9 years, 8 months ago

I've been watching it as much as can. Its heartbreaking to see this happen right in front of us. Its actually hard to keep up with the news when I have bf who gives a rat ass about.

ms_canada 9 years, 8 months ago

Just heard on the news about all the stuff that Canada is sending to the gulf coast to help. Also can I be permitted to tell you about a very special birthday party that we are celebrating in our Province today? Alberta received a charter Order In Council as a province on this day 100 years ago today. Lots of activities all this year but especially today. :o)

ms_canada 9 years, 8 months ago

Carmenilla - I'll just bet that you have been to the Preservation Jazz Hall in downtown NO. My hubby and I went there, it was real neat. We also drove over to Biloxi and spent a night there in the Travelodge and had lunch in Bay St. Louis on the way there.. I even remember what we had for that lunch, red beans and rice and cat fish. Yumm! I would not want to see what it looks like now. B. St. L. was such a pretty little town. I weep to think of it.

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

Yes, I do follow the news updates whenever possible. I receive email alerts when something new has been posted to news agencies websites. When at home, I usually look at several stations to get a little broader perspective.

IP: Thank you for putting yourself where your heart is and giving your time and effort to bringing about a benefit. It is my hope that the people of Lawrence will support such an event, I believe they will. 'As for me and my house'.........we will be there (that first part was a mini scriptural quote for Jayhawk 226 :)

I was pleased to read that many of the board realize that those suffering the most, and awaiting rescue in NO, are in fact lower income citizens with very limited or no means of evacuating. While there will be more than enough blame being assigned in the future, I think it is lucidrous for a city to release an evacuation notice but fail to address the great number of it's citizens that cannot just take off and go to family or friends in other areas. In addition to the deplorable conditions, these people are also being victimized by the criminal gangs that are roaming the area looting stores and robbing survivors.

On a happier note, ms_canada, hope you are going to help Alberta celebrate! Take the hubby out to dinner or some such thing :) Our fondness for our northern neighbors is once again strengthened by the massive donations being made by Canada to our fellow Americans in the South.

italianprincess 9 years, 8 months ago

I just spoke through yahoo instant messaging with Sunflower Sue. She found my yahoo ID and messaged me. Shes going to hlep me out with the planning of the benefit concert I'm wanting to put on. Its great to have another person who wants to help out.

I feel that even though theres relief on the way, Lawrence can do their part and try to donate as much as possible. I have never been here through a horrible tornado, but I know if we had one here that wiped out 1/2 or all of Lawrence other states would be there for us.

The benefit concert is in the works. With help now planning this event things can happen a bit quicker. Will let all in here know of the date and time chosen for the event and hope all of you come out.

Hong_Kong_Phooey 9 years, 8 months ago

Neopolss: I'm not saying that I've never jumped on someone's comment...I was just pointing it out. As did those people that told me that someone must have "pissed in your cornflakes". ;-)

Jayhawk226 9 years, 8 months ago

Ceallach--thanks for the spiritual quote!

; )

ms_canada 9 years, 8 months ago

Yes, I follow the coverage and I am noticing many news items about the jump in gas prices. Now here is some bizarre news. I live high on the river bank and from my front window, a little to the left, across the river, I can see a huge oil refinery. Alberta is a province rich in oil. A couple of weeks ago our gas price went to $1.02/litre. That works out to $4.00/gal. approx. Yesterday it went to $1.14 because of the hurricane, they say. Is that not bizarre?

Solitude 9 years, 8 months ago

I am glad i live in the US..we have the right to speak our minds. This is just my opinion...i choose to agree to disagree about alot of things. What is important here is that everyone in every town big or small,remember that we do not control everything..especially the weather and life itself. It could be us in their shoes someday. Ask yourself this..will you want to waste the time to blame Bush,or the mayor or will you just be struggling to survive and feed your babies,your wife,your husband or just yourself? I try not to judge any soul because i know by some chance i could be in the same situation,i don't know what i'd do if i had to deal with some of the things these people in the south are dealing with. Right now,i just want to help..italian princess..you are so cool!Let me know if i can do something to help! Even if it is just to pass out flyers..keep me informed please!

heretoday 9 years, 8 months ago

I can't believe the looting that is going on! It is a gosh darn free-for-all circus! There are people dying at the convention center and no one in charge of this city! How can someone ignore this or have not have even a lowbrow idea of what kind of a disater this is.......

crohan1978 9 years, 8 months ago

Gas prices are rising because 8 refineries are currently shut down along the gulf coast because of damage. We already had a shortage of refineries, and the hurricane didn't help matters. Plus, New Orleans is a huge port for offloading oil that is distributed in pipe lines that run to places like the refineries in Illinois. They just started distributing oil again from New Orleans. I heard on the radio that the remaining refineries in the US are cutting back production, because they don't have enough oil. That is going to kill gas prices, and as much as that pisses me off, it is just the facts. I personally wish the oil companies would finally just take a hit, and stop raking in record profits by jacking up oil prices to stifle demand, considering we are in a crisis state right now. We need corporations to start standing up to these guys, maybe by stopping shipments of their products to teh oil companies, and maybe they'll finally get the hint. Corporations are getting hurt just as bad as everyone else, and you are going to start seeing it at the grocery stores, etc. Someone is going to have to pay for their higher costs of shipping products to stores, etc. Its gotten ridiculous!

Linda Aikins 9 years, 8 months ago

I've always wondered that if we all took our house fans, pointed them toward the sky and turned them on high, would we be able to move clouds away?

hmmm

italianprincess 9 years, 8 months ago

Solitude,

I'm in contact with Sunflower Sue now through Yahoo instant messager. You can email me if you like at " ItalianPrincessinCali@hotmail.com if you would like to help.

Tim at the Parks and Rec is alsoon board for this event. So far its planned for the 15th of October at South Park. Going to get alot of organizations involved in this. This event will be annouced on the radio, the news and in the paper if thats possible. Sue is working with me now so planning this now will be alot easier with her.

If anyone else wants to help out please don't hesitate to email me. The more people involved the better.

KsjKC 9 years, 8 months ago

Another word about ways to help people. I live in Overland Park now, a Lawrence "townie" finally moving down K-10 to be closer to my work...So I don't know if Dillons or Hy-Vee are on this yet, though I am sure they will be: PriceChopper here in the KC Metro has donation slips you can "buy" in 1, 5. and 10-dollar denominations... Last night all I could really swing was five bucks--it was all the extra cash I had on me--But I couldn't NOT do it. The need to help, the need to not be helpless was inexorable and while it was nice to be nice, I guess--it still bothers me that doing the best that I can do to help in this crisis really isn't enough to stem the physical, emotional, and economic bleeding in the Crescent City and Mississippi...

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

Let's change her name to italianheroine - whatdoyasay?

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

ItalianPrincess, I don't do instant messaging so it's not me you're talking to. (Wierd!) You might want to find out who you're really talking to.

That being said, would you let me know how this turns out? I think your concert idea is a great one and would be glad to help out if I can. Just e-mail me via LJW.

KsjKC 9 years, 8 months ago

I found it refreshing to learn that the president had so effectively taken the pulse of the nation to know how often we stockpile quarts of unleaded in mason jars in our basements, garages, and my personal favorite place, my furnace room.

Is there a presidential apologist in the room??

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

KsjKC: I was preparing a brilliant and totally convincing defense for the President but it will have to wait -- I only have 3/4 of a tank of gas and I need to hurry to the station since I need a full tank to feel secure :)

Linda Aikins 9 years, 8 months ago

Our company is having a $5.00 jeans day tomorrow, with all money going to Red Cross. It's a start. I've posted pictures from the internet all around in a shamless attempt to get money. And I'm proud of that.

KsjKC 9 years, 8 months ago

Ceallach: While I don't want to hijack this thread away from the intended topic, I am grateful. Much as Johnny Carson when he retired in 1992 said he was grateful to Vice President Dan Quayle for "making my last few months so fruitful" I am grateful to our President for allowing us to find levity -- gallons of it, in fact -- in this face of this American tragedy.

Now if you will excuse me, I have a gallon of high-test slung over my shoulder and I need to get it down to the grotto for safe-keeping...

italianprincess 9 years, 8 months ago

Sunflower........now thats strange and funny. Her Yahoo ID is like yours. Its just spelled differently, so whoops on my part thinking it was you.

No Italianheroine here, just someone trying to do what I think is needed. These people need as much help all around. They need to know that are going to be safe, fed, and have a place to sleep. Yes, the government is helping like they should but its nice to have the help from other states as well.

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

IP: I have to disagree -- that's what a heroine does. It's okay -- you don't have to take the title and all of it's weight for life :) I think it's important to all of us that every day heros and heroines be acknowledged.

KsjKC 9 years, 8 months ago

Ceallach:

Amen. Thank You, Italian Princess and ALL of you allowing us to feel that there is something we can do...There has to be something to stem this horribly empty and helpless feeling when so many are hurting so badly-- Keith

italianprincess 9 years, 8 months ago

You both are very welcome. I'm just trying to do my part and get help with this from others. I have 2 people willing to help out now and the parks and rec are more then willing to join.

God Bless all those people out south. There are now 180+ dead in MS and who knows how many more. This is truely a sad situation for everyone all over as we are all effected by this one way or another.

My heart just aches for our southern states that got hit by Katrina.

KsjKC 9 years, 8 months ago

I thought helicopters were strictly catch-and-release this time of year...

Carmenilla 9 years, 8 months ago

I just watched some video footage online and am even more distressed. NO is rampant with confusion and violence. This is what happens when you the poor masses are left to fend for themselves and they feel desperate. Babies are starving, pregnant women can't get to hospitals, no one will pick up and transport these people. Now I read that armed thugs are shooting at rescue workers and women are being raped in public bathrooms. Where is the Nat'l Guard or someone? My heart goes out to those trapped in that chaos with no forseeable way out. Many more will die from starvation and violence.

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

Carmenilla: The pain is overwhelming. I heard that the National Guard is now going into NO. If anyone has more information, please share -- there is some obscure LA or NO law that prohibits the declaring of martial law (even though the mayor did earlier). They had to declare some particular type of emergency before troops could go in to police the areas.

So many rumors, I'm not sure what is true and what is not. I feel even more helpless watching on tv, knowing that as the sun sets the situation will become even worse for the poor citizens trapped in that hellhole with the criminals. I pray for their protection.

omb: Thanks for another chuckle, we need them to gain some balance with all the dark reports.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 8 months ago

Did this have to happen?

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001051313

Early this AM on CNN they were saying that approximately 11,000 guardsmen had showed but none of the federal agencies had any kind of coordination set up. They were standing around looking kind of helpless and you know damn well in this type of situation people pull together and make things work. They were without direction...what a terrible feeling. I would have thought the gov't would have flown in many power flat bottom boats such as the type used in Viet Nam and trucked them into the city. It can still be done.

The women have become victims of sex. What in the hell is this? No excuse for this behavior.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

IP, glad you got that figured out. I'm still behind you 100% and will help in any way I can...even if it's just to come, listen, and throw some $ or toiletries into a box. You truly are a heroine!

I did go to Red Cross' web site today and found that you can donate on-line. How EASY (and awesome) is that!

OMB, that was darn funny!

Ms_C, Happy b.day to Alberta! Eat some cake for me.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

Now, my ranting:

We are the United States of America! Will someone please explain to this dumb country bumpkin why we can't get ourselves together and get those people out of there? I really do not get it. I can't fathom it. I'm so disgusted with "whatever governmental powers that be" that they can't extract their heads long enough to see that things are not going well. How can we go save other countries when we can't even seem to help our own? Every last person should have been out of there by now...or supplies gotten in.

(I said I was ranting) However, my rage does not blind me to all the good people who are trying to help. To those, I thank you, most sincerely.

Chris Bohling 9 years, 8 months ago

Yes, very much so, as I was supposed to be taking a school trip down there in March. They keep telling us that we "don't know yet whether we're going to go or not," but it's pretty obvious that the town is going to be totally ruined for several years now.

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

I just read the online article about Gov. Sebilius ordering 120 Kansas National Guard troops to Louisiana to assist in the rescue effort.

Does anyone know what has delayed the deployment of troops until now? Not just from Kansas, from all the states, or the federal goverment? (And pleeeesssseee, no replies about President Bush's policies or the democratic party being obstructionists.) Thanks.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 8 months ago

We have empty military bases all over the country. Let's don't dump these people in one area

Military Bases have housing and kitchens. Let's help out this way as this would be good use of taxpayer property and dollars.

So many will be without any work place to work or live. Let's be compassionate.

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

MyName: Thank you, that does help clarify things for me.

JazzEgle 9 years, 8 months ago

It's a tragedy, I just hope the finger pointing stops and we all work together to get through this. It was a NATURAL disaster, please stoping playing the blame game. We need to show America at its best, united.

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