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What are you looking forward to at the Wakarusa Music Festival?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on June 16, 2005

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Hong_Kong_Phooey 9 years, 6 months ago

The thing I'm looking forward to the most at the Wakarusa Music Festival is (drumroll, please)....the end. I can't wait for it to be over so I can quit hearing about it.

enochville 9 years, 6 months ago

I think the money these concert goers spend will be great for Lawrence. As far as the concert goes - not my type of music or culture.

neopolss 9 years, 6 months ago

The mosquitos out there are horrendous. It's best to carry some spray or plan the next few days with west nile, or whatever else those suckers are carrying right now.

The band names just keep getting weirder. I guess all the good ones are taken.

Fangorn 9 years, 6 months ago

Never been. Not planning to go. Really enjoy the names of the bands, though.

If the US would repeal its utterly misguided ban on DDT, we could control the mosquito problem at the festival and around the world. Oh yeah, and millions of people who died of malaria over the last 30 years or so would still be alive.

ms_canada 9 years, 6 months ago

OMB - why the sick crows? Can't you shoo them out? I looked up the festival and the artists are not familiar to me. I am not a fan of most popular music though. Folk music, especially all forms of Celtic music, is my fav. I am looking forward to our festival Aug. 4 to 8 and especially since my daughter will be here to attend with me. Hope the weather is good. And our city does practice spraying for mosquitos, so no problem, at least not a great problem.

captain_poindexter 9 years, 6 months ago

So the question was about Wakarusa fest, and Fangorn goes for the "misguided ban on...."
man, it was a simple question, what are you looking forward to at the Fest? this is one of the best band lineups I've ever seen. can't wait to go, not camping though, not my gig, I'm a wussy city guy who likes to shower once a day. Gov. Mule, Wilco, NICE!

captain_poindexter 9 years, 6 months ago

you know I luv ya though Fangorn! all in good fun.

remember_username 9 years, 6 months ago

Fangorn - The ban on DDT in the US does not affect the regions of the world with a large malarial problem. Many of these regions of the world still use DDT, as it is the most cost effective mosquito control agent. You can bet that the ban would be lifted in the US if West Nile or malaria become more widespread here. The history of mosquito control is very interesting. For a while even antagonistic governments were working together to eliminate that annoying carrier of yellow fever and malaria. Your numbers are not far off from 1.5 to 3 million people die of malaria each year.

acg 9 years, 6 months ago

I went camping with a friend last summer who had some of that military issued repellant, omb, from when he was in the marines and that stuff was awesome!! I know that repellants are all poison and can't be good for you to put right on the skin but mosquitoes love me. I'm like sweet candy to bugs of all kinds and anything that keeps me from being the buffet makes me happy. He only had a little, not enough for this year and that makes me sad. Can civilians buy that stuff anywhere, that you know of?

Fergs34 9 years, 6 months ago

I can't wait for the fresh smell of weed and BO. Can't wait! Will there be a booth handing out shampoo and soap? Maybe I'll sport my G Dubs t-shirt.

enochville 9 years, 6 months ago

acg: Some people's blood is just more attractive to insects than others. In addition to the repellant, you might try consuming a couple of tablespoons of vinegar a little while before you go outside to make your blood and sweat a little less appealing. This remedy is not perfect; you still may get bitten, but you'll be no more appealing than others around you with similar repellant on.

There is no scientific evidence for this that I know of so its effects may just be a placebo. But, you don't lose anything by trying it.

ms_canada 9 years, 6 months ago

Here is a good remedy for the mosquito bites. This is for after they bite you. Within 10 minutes. Take a piece of orange peel, about 1 inch by 1 1/2 in. hold it over the bite and bend it between your fingers and pinch it until the oil squirts out onto the bite, then use the peel to rub the oil in well. The bite will go away and you will never know you have been bitten. It really works. My hubby is dreadfully allergic to them and always carries oranges or the fresh peel when out in the wilds. And it works for him. The little bugs don't bother me. They say it depends on what you eat. They love people who eat bananas and I don't. Hubby does, daily. I eat oranges, daily. Maybe that's the trick. Also they are attracted by dark clothing rather than white or light. Worth a try.

Shelby 9 years, 6 months ago

I can't believe people actually like jam bands. That sh*t is laughable.

I'll be there for Wilco, Calexico, and little mo'. Last year there were SO MANY DRUGS around that it was funny. I remember strolling through the camping areas and seeing people with BOOTHS set up, selling baked goods. People were coming up to me and half-whispering "Shrooms, I have shrooms..." or "KAY-BEEEEEEEEEE........"

I also saw a rather distraught individual getting baggie after baggie after baggie of weed pulled from his back pack by a couple cops. Something tells me he's still in jail.

Shelby 9 years, 6 months ago

Hey Ms. Canada--couple questions:

1) If you have a husband, why not MRS. Canada?

2) Why 1 by 1&1/2? Why not 1 by 1?

acg 9 years, 6 months ago

Thanks, I'll try these things. Anything that works can't hurt, right?

I would love to go to W Fest this year but we don't have a sitter. Bummer!

happy_me 9 years, 6 months ago

Have never been to the 'Fest' hear its a great time. I'm looking forward to how dead town will be.

Redneckgal 9 years, 6 months ago

The best thing to keep mosquito's away that I've found is Avon skin so soft bath oil. Not the lotion. Its a little greasy but it works well.

happy_me 9 years, 6 months ago

Question to anyone that will answer.....Yesterday I logged off for awhile then when tried to log back in and it wouldn't let me. anyone know whats up?

Fangorn 9 years, 6 months ago

Captain: Sorry, I just didn't have much to say about the festival itself. Thanks for being understanding! ;)

r_u: Where have you been?! I thought you'd abandoned us. We had a memorial service and everything. (Just kidding.) I've missed your posts. Welcome back! / Regarding malaria, I had read that the death rate was about 2-2.5 million a year, so we must be reading from the same page. Some countries, Sri Lanka for instance, used DDT during the 1950s and very nearly eradicated malaria. It came back with a vengeance when they stopped using it in the early 1960s. Several South American nations have seen the same trend. Ecuador on the other hand actually increased DDT use in the early 1990s. They've seen their infection rate drop 60%. And they've still got song birds, Rachel Carson's fantasies notwithstanding. I agree with you that a surge in West Nile or malaria here will bring an end to the ban. We don't "carpet bomb" entire fields or neighborhoods anymore. Small amounts applied where people live are very effective and cause no harm to the environment. / btw, did I mention that I'm glad you're back? :))

acg: Were you using deet? That's what we usually use in the military. There are actually quite a number of civilian products available that contain deet. But getting the straight stuff from a military surplus source will take care of you too!

happy_me 9 years, 6 months ago

Redneckgal I've tried SSS it really does work! My uncle even uses it on his horses. Have you heard of that before?

christie 9 years, 6 months ago

Give me blue birds, and cardinals, and Eagles and I'll live with a few bites every spring.

You bunch of wussies don't know how to protect yourself with natural repellants and rely on chemicals which harm the environment and potentially the fetus of your own unborn child.

I saw a sign on a persons yard the other day that said CHEM-LAWN. Think about it. Chem-Lawn. Sure, I want my 2 year old crawing around on a Chem-Lawn LOL.

I look forward to seeing lots of young people descending upon our town with their strange clothes and smelly bodies and open minds. Change is good.

happygolucky 9 years, 6 months ago

Casey is going to be alittle unhappy. Sound Tribe isn't going to be there due to a death in the family. I'm looking forward to Split Lip Rayfield.

acg 9 years, 6 months ago

Yeah I think it was deet but a higher concentration of it than what they would put in Off. Good stuff, man.

Fangorn 9 years, 6 months ago

Das_Ubermime: I didn't see your post from last night until this morning. Sorry about the delay, but I did post a response.

Christie: How exactly is strange clothes and smelly bodies a change for Lawrence? Also, I care less about a "few bites every spring" than I do about the millions who die each year from malaria and dengue fever that could be saved by the judicious use of DDT or other chemicals. The "evidence" that Carson used to dupe us into believing DDT would wipe out bird species has been thoroughly refuted. So you'll still get blue birds and cardinals. I'd be interested to see how your view might change if your marginally effective "natural" repellants fail to protect your two-year-old from the West Nile virus. I'd be interested, but I hope I never, ever find out.

Redneckgal 9 years, 6 months ago

Happy me..never heard of using it on horses but I bet it'd work. Might be a little expensive though! Also yes I had trouble logging back in this morning.

happy_me 9 years, 6 months ago

Redneckgal He would only use it on them when they would go on trail drives (I think to keep the bugs away so they weren't slaping their tails) Perhaps the log in probs are due to the refromatting LJW is doing.

Ceallach 9 years, 6 months ago

The festival? Have never attended one, can't see it happening anytime in the future. However, my oldest grandson will be attending, he is a KU student so I doubt that he will be exposed to anything new. I'm just praying he will have fun (but not to the point of irreversible brain or hearing damage). He loves music and camping so he is looking forward to the festival. Must be from his father's side, since my idea of roughing it is staying in a Super 8 instead of the Hyatt :):)

Mosquitos are not a real big problem for me. The Skin So Soft mentioned earlier works wonders for 1 daughter and granddaughter that have strong reactions to bites.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 6 months ago

Christie, "Natural" doesn't necessarily mean "healthy". I mean, if a person decides to rub themselves down with "cinnamon" oil...the skeeters will probably leave them alone but the person is going to break out in a nasty rash and a pregnant woman could even go into labor (true). So, what are your "natural" remedies since you didn't specify. I'd be interested in knowing since I, also, am most desirable to the flying, biting nasties.

I've read one study that says they are attracted to estrogens. Another study says that the propane "catchers" that you can put in the yard really do work but not for the skeeters that carry the west nile virus. They are attracted (for the most part) to birds which do not put out the same chemical attractants as humans.

chevygal 9 years, 6 months ago

ohhh yippee! the wakarusa hippie festival! oh im SOOOO excited....for it to be OVER!

Redneckgal 9 years, 6 months ago

Also I just thought of this repellant but it might not be for the weak stomached and the city might not like it much either...my Grandpa sometimes Dad too would burn some cow poop! Lord what a smell. Kept the skeeters and the neighbors away for sure!

wichita_reader 9 years, 6 months ago

An old roommate used to make great dove gumbo, but I didn't much care for his goose fajitas. Not so sure about the Barred Owl tacos, either, but I'll try anything once.

I haven't ever made it to the Wakarusa Fest, but this year's lineup appears exceptional to my tastes. Split Lip, Wilco, Galactic . . .

christie 9 years, 6 months ago

Natural doesn't exactly mean healthy well that can be true. RattleSnakes are natural but we don't go around picking them up do we? Posion Ivy is natural but we don't go around rubbing that on our bodies either now do we. Water is natural but if you drink enough of it you can actually cause your body harm. Get a clue.

Man-Made manipulated chemicals are not natural, and can be much more harmful. DDT doesn't cause harm??? Hmmm well go ahead and get a nice 1/2 cup of the stuff and mix it into your 8 ounces of water and drink away... then come back and tell me about it ok.

I uses lemon peal, slice, peal, and rub over my exposed skin. Smells nice too.

happy_me 9 years, 6 months ago

also attracts bees which are worse than the mosquitoes

remember_username 9 years, 6 months ago

Fangorn - when the LJW asked the controversial question "what is your cell phone ringtone" I swore off reading and posting for two weeks. Thanks for wondering where I went.

DEET is an excellent repellent from my military experience and it is now available commercially. Yes, we were told not to get it on the M-16 (the M-14 was ok) as the stocks were plastic. The military grade was about 30% DEET and if memory serves that amount or greater can be found in commercial repellents. Higher concentrations of DEET last longer so if you don't mind regular application you can go with a lower concentration. Whatever one uses (even lemon peel) its better than West Nile Virus.

ms_canada 9 years, 6 months ago

shelby - mrs_canada? yeah thats good, don't really know why I chose ms way back in Nov. I actually hate that stupid title. And 1 x 1 1/2 works for me. :) :)

About the problem logging on after you have posted a couple of time and then get the next post rejected. That is what I mean when I say I have gremlins. Talked to Adrian Holovaty at LJW and he said he didn't know what caused that. and that was a long time ago not just now with the new format. But the thing I do now is just don't log out until the end of the day. If you just back up to the page that has the question you will still be logged in and the posts of others will still come in to your pc. I thought I was the only one with the problem. The first time it happened I thought I had been kicked off the board and wrote Adrian to find out why the heck that was so. LOL :)

rooga 9 years, 6 months ago

extreme makeover- Im a cute guy and im not going to Waka. Ill be here! If you get bored and dont see any cute guys let me know

tell_it_like_it_is 9 years, 6 months ago

Never even heard of this festival before. Is it something you can take your kids too?

Shelby 9 years, 6 months ago

No, not really. At least I wouldn't. Drugs. Lots of drugs everywhere.

acg 9 years, 6 months ago

Flakey, the problem is, a lot of people will just bash something they're not interested in no matter what it is. So the music isn't to their liking and the crowd and culture isn't their taste, but instead of saying "it's not my thing and I probably won't be attending" they start bashing about hippies and losers and dirty people that stink and don't bathe. It's sad.

Das, you're so right about the mosquitoes building up an immunity. Two summers ago, when I first bought my house, we could sit on the back deck with citronella candles burning and they left us alone. This year it seems that they laugh at my citronella candles and proceed to have me for a snack. More mosquitoes? Immune ones?

sunflower_sue 9 years, 6 months ago

Christie, I wasn't arguing with you that there are many harmful chemicals out there. My point, (that I think you did a good job of backing up) is that there are just as many harmful "natural" things in the world. I would definitely be willing to try the "Lemon" method (thanks for being specific). But, I'm still going to use DEET as it has been proven over the years to have a very small incidence of bad reactions and it WILL work better than the lemon. We have many ticks and mosquitos where I live and I feel my kids are safer using DEET than getting bitten.

If you (or anyone) want some medical opinion on DEET, try this link: http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/128/11/931

sunflower_sue 9 years, 6 months ago

Ms_Canada, I'm going to try to eat more oranges and will try the "after bitten" method you described as I, too, am terribly allergic to the bites.

BTW, Christie, my very good friend (and Medical Doctor) uses a potion for her dry skin that I make at home myself...see, I wasn't trying to sound nasty about homeopathic remedies...just wanted you to be more specific and I also felt a need to defend man made chemicals that all seem to get lumped into the "ALL are bad" category.

corrienteroper 9 years, 6 months ago

Wakarusa Fest? Not heard of it. Where is it? What's the big draw? I've lived in the area all my life, and not been. Doesn't sound like I will attend in this lifetime, but what is the festival about?

Fangorn 9 years, 6 months ago

Christie: Since you seem rather unfamiliar with toxicology, allow me to make what I assume will be a vain attempt to shift your perspective. "The dose makes the poison" is one of the most basic precepts of toxicology. Nearly everything in large enough quantities is toxic. Conversely, only a very few substances are dangerously toxic in minute trace quantities. Many vitamins, necessary for good health, will kill you if taken in sufficient amounts. Arsenic is found naturally in ground water in many places but is not harmful in such minute concentration (10-50 parts per million). Yes the studies used by Carson in her fictional best-seller showed health problems in mice. . . that were exposed to massive quantities of DDT for an extended period. But that's not how DDT is used today. Moreover, the chemical is intended for use around a habitat, not for ingestion. Any product, man-made or "natural", will cause harm if misused. Perhaps you could get a nice 1/2 cup of concrete and mix it with 8 ounces of cool water and drink it? Does that seem ridiculous? Of course it does! But no more so than your suggestion regarding DDT.

J Good Good 9 years, 6 months ago

There are families who attend the Wakarusa. Our parents took us to events when we were young kids where plenty of people were indulging in drugs, and we just ignored them and enjoyed the music. We saw someone on a bad trip one time, and it was more educational than all the DARE brainwashing combined, but it wasn't scary....

italianprincess 9 years, 6 months ago

Everyone who is planning to attend the festival this weekend..........Have a great time, be safe and use lots of bug spray.

captain_poindexter 9 years, 6 months ago

hey man, bug spray is not natural. I will be there with no bug spray with my hemp shorts and a clean liter of whiskey.

ps. just kidding about the hemp short-pants and no bug spray. thats all I was kidding about.

ok, talk about deet.

ms_canada 9 years, 6 months ago

I must say, we sure don't have much of a drug problem at our folk music festival. Maybe different kinds of people. Don't know. But you do get the odd whiff of the old mary jane now and then. And as for booze, no way can you slip any past the guys at the gate. They inspect your bags pretty thoroughly. They even took my perrier bottle away once, I didn't know you could not take any glass bottles in. I was somewhat angry, that perrier cost me. But of course there is the usual beer garden where you can purchase wine and vodka coolers also. And the music is piped in, so a lot of goofy people spend the whole weekend in there. Some fun! Have a nice weekend everyone.

tell_it_like_it_is 9 years, 6 months ago

Also if you have any standing water in your yard (who don't this year?) and you can't get rid of it pour a little bleach in it and it'll kill the mosquitoe eggs.

ladysilk 9 years, 6 months ago

I would like to go out this year and see Little Feat...man does that date me. I just can't see paying $60 each for my family of 4. On my way out of town this morning I could see RV after RV pulling in to town.

tell_it_like_it_is 9 years, 6 months ago

Don't really know offtotheright as all my standing is in non-grassy spots but I'd maybe try just a tiny bit and go from there it really doesn't take a whole lot anyway.

happy_me 9 years, 6 months ago

corrienteroper the Wakarusa Fest is the 'updated' Mega Keger I wouldn't take kids

sunflower_sue 9 years, 6 months ago

I checked out the band list a couple weeks ago and nothing interested me. I almost took my kids last year 'cause I really wanted to see Los Lonely Boys. After hearing some of these posts, I'm glad I didn't. Maybe I should drive up to Canada and go to Ms' Celtic music fest. Sounds more up my alley anyway ;0)

wichita_reader 9 years, 6 months ago

Way off topic here, but check out this story. This guy has allegedly molested thousands in numerous states and countries, and documented much of it. Sick, sick, sick man.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/11911832.htm

amanda 9 years, 6 months ago

DEET: You can get 100% deet at Wal-mart. It's in a small bottle in the sporting goods section. We live out by Clinton and the ticks and mosquitoes are awful right now.

GreenEyedBlues 9 years, 6 months ago

There are two kinds of hippies: real hippies and trust funders who think being a hippie is some sort of fad.

topflight 9 years, 6 months ago

i am looking forward to watching all the hippies get arrested by the douglas county sheriffs department for smoking weed, transporting weed, selling weed. hahaha hippies in jail, makes that wakarusa and the infiltration of hippies worth it. just because there is a hippy festival, does not mean marijuana is legal. DUH

kansas 9 years, 6 months ago

You're right, GreenEyedBlues! And the "trust fund hippie" capital of the world is.......Boulder, Colorado! (Trust me, folks! I used to live near there. Boulder's the trust fund hippie capital of the world, alright! )

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