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Asked at Massachusetts Street on July 23, 2005

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“Stay inside as much as possible. If you have to leave the house, make sure your car has a good air conditioner.”

— Kim Green, director of information systems, Lawrence

“Ice-cold lemonade. We usually carry an umbrella with us to the ballpark and put a cold rag on the backs of our necks.”

— Harry Smith, city worker, Lawrence

“I go to lots of movies, and I spend a lot of time at Borders.”

— Krystyn Renfro, retail sales, Lawrence

“Take off your clothes and turn the fan on with a big block of ice in front of you.”

— Josh Johnson, exterior designer, Tacoma, Wash.

Dangerous heat sticking around

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23 July 2005
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GreenEyedBlues (Anonymous) says…

Looks like GoatDog's internet connection is back up again!

Krystyn's answer could also be re-used if LJWorld were to ask “What do you do for recreation?” Can we hang out in ANY bookstore in town or is it a fact that Borders happens to keep the thermostat down just a *tad* lower than their competitors?

All smartassery aside, I've had the AC set at 65 since late May and there's an oscillating fan in every room of the house.

White Grape Diet Rite is the nectar of the gods. Enjoyed over ice, it's the best summer drink next to water.
23 July 2005
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italianprincess (Anonymous) says…

I see some of you have already started……LOL

Going back to bed here, its way to early still.

Air is on and has been all night. Sleep with nothing on of course, then drink plenty of water during the day and relax. Go out as little as possible if you can, but if you need to make sure your car has working AC.

Okay…..back to bed. You guys crack me up.
23 July 2005
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hottruckinmama (Anonymous) says…

if you've reached the age of adulthood and don't know what to do to stay cool theres no help for you. for petes sakes do what you can to stay cool keep your pets watered an shaded and for god sakes just suck it up and go on. its been hot before it'll be hot again. the world isn't going to end just because its hot.
23 July 2005
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space_rabbit_kerosene (Anonymous) says…

Perhaps I am a masochist but I have yet to turn on my air conditioner. Hot trucking mother said it and even included a “pete's sake” for good measure. I much prefer this to the horrors of winter. One thing cool about Kansas: all four seasons can produce conditions in which the atmosphere literally becomes deadly but compared to winter this is a piece of cake you babies. This may be against the rules but I have found two piping hot cups of coffee in the morning followed by several tall glasses of the same diuretic on ice throughout the course of the day is both tasty and energizing.
23 July 2005
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ms_canada (Anonymous) says…

My mom used to do the same thing as Josh, above, suggests, well, except the taking off of clothes.
Here in the north with no air cond. I just keep the fan going, wear as little as possible. I find a pan of ice water near by with a wash rag to wipe me down plus the fan does the trick. I do as little as possible and just feel sorry for those who have to work.
It cools off here at nite pretty well, so we open all doors and windows and close them first thing in the am and that keeps the house fairly comfortable until about 4pm.
Last nite I slept with the fan gently blowing on me. But my cat Tazzy does not like that so she slept on the floor.
One more thing, I was pretty disgusted with all the snarky remarks about God and Jesus yesterday. Those are not jokes to some of us. I do have a good sense of humor, but the bounds were over-stepped yesterday and I hope I never see that again on this board. You are mostly good people, I think and I do thoroughly enjoy the **Silly** days here, but that was too much. Sorry, I needed to say that.
23 July 2005
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sunflower_sue (Anonymous) says…

Well, I had a good joke about a KS farmer who died and went to (H E double toothpicks) but after Ms_C's post, I feel remiss to tell it. I'm sorry about yesterday, Ms_C, I do think most of it was over the line. But, I have to admit, I found Fangorn's Matthew 21:2 and OMB's Fury joke funny. (Just because of the literal interpretations.)

I'm being serious now….is it all off limits or are some jokes involving the Bible OK? I really don't want to offend you and especially don't want to offend God. So, could you give us some guidance here? I trust your judgement and I think the heat melts our brains a bit.
23 July 2005
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ms_canada (Anonymous) says…

Yes, sunflower - I have to agree about the colt and the fury. Those were hilarious and did not demean Jesus at all.
Guidance? OK, I will have to think about that. I guess, I would have to say that if the intent is just levity and not a sort of vicious attack on God or His word, the Bible or a belittling of others who love Him and His Word, that is OK. But some here can get down right nasty. Of course, we have to admit that lots of times the intent does come over unintentionally. The harsh tone may not have been meant that way. Sooooo, we have to take everything with a grain of salt, as it were. Right? Maybe I should have kept my mouth shut.

23 July 2005
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Fangorn (Anonymous) says…

Water. Water. Water. Stay hydrated. That's about the most important thing you can do in this kind of weather. Staying inside is a good idea. If you don't have AC, get yourself to a movie or a store for a couple hours a day.

important note: i know all caps is the equivalent of shouting, but this really is important. If you have elderly relatives or friends or know someone who is recovering from an illness or surgery, check up on them. Go to their home and see how they are doing. If their AC goes down and they can't take other precautions to stay cool on their own, this heat can kill in a very short period of time. None of us wants to see a senseless, completely avoidable death.
23 July 2005
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sunflower_sue (Anonymous) says…

Amen, Fangorn!

And Ms_C, no, you should not have kept your mouth shut. I admire the fact that you can speak your mind.
23 July 2005
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deec (Anonymous) says…

Completely off topic, there was a picture in yesterday's paper of a person having their blood pressure taken at Health Care Access. This guy is an old friend of mine with whom I have lost contact. Does anyone know how to contact him? He doesn't have a listed phone #.
23 July 2005
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ms_canada (Anonymous) says…

sunflower - I guess the thing that got my ire up yesterday was that a lot of posters seem to love to jump all over liberty's bones. He makes a comment and then beatrice comes up with the long harangue on the O.T. references. I wish when people quote the Bible they would try to find out what the quote actually means. Her post sounded so nasty. Perhaps she did not mean it that way, but it sounded as if she was making fun of God's Word and then others just jumped on the band wagon. Most of it was just in fun, I know that.
I wish people would stop picking on liberty, he seems like a kind, sincere man to me.
23 July 2005
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ms_canada (Anonymous) says…

Happy Birthday OTTR, I hope you have a nice celebration and no they are not depressing. Think of all the experiences you have had in the last year and all those you can look forward to in the next. Make some plans. Think of ways that you can make the coming year interesting and exciting. Plan to do some things that you always wanted to do and then set about making sure that you do them this year.
Have a really nice day.
23 July 2005
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sunflower_sue (Anonymous) says…

ottr, happy birthday!!!!

My dear, beloved gma (in-law) lived to be 99. She said age was a state of mind and she never felt THAT old. She said everything was a state of mind…and she always had her mind made up…to be happy!

Gosh, I miss her!

Anyhoo, rock the house down! celebrate!!!!! hbd!
23 July 2005
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italianprincess (Anonymous) says…

Extreme………..Josh= EWWWWW!!!!!!

Thats just plain……..ewwwwwwwwww.

Happy Birthday to you OTTR!!!!!!!!!
Hope you have a great day.

Staying in most of the day with my little one, other then going out to do a bit of birthday prep for his party next weekend. My oldest played ball last night in it and won 18-4. I feel for them in this heat. Make sure your kids have plenty to drink if they are playing a sport.

I know its going to get hotter and my bill is going to be very high, but I run the AC for my kids mostly. Its set at 76/77 and thats not to bad. It goes off and on when needed and we keep cool.

Well off to shop……..stay cool everyone and drink lots of water.
23 July 2005
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Fangorn (Anonymous) says…

offtotheright: Happy Birthday! I hope you are able to spend it doing what you enjoy most. And yes, growing older definitely beats the alternative!

23 July 2005
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

Cold Beer and Shade.
23 July 2005
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sunflower_sue (Anonymous) says…

OK, I'm telling my KS Farmer joke today since it seems very apropos. ( Maybe some of you have already heard it.)

A farmer from the wheat fields of Kansas dies and goes
to hell. Once there, the Devil notices that this
farmer is not suffering like the rest there are. He
checks his gauges and sees that it's 95 degrees and
about 80% humidity.

So he goes to the farmer and asks why he's so happy.
The farmer replies, “I like it here. It's just like
plowing my fields in June.”

Unhappy with the farmer's response, the devil goes
back to his controls and turns the temperature up to
105 degrees and 90% humidity. After making the
adjustment, the devil goes looking for the farmer.

Finding him just as happy as can be, the Devil
frustratingly asks the farmer again why he's so happy.
“This is even better now! It's like
pulling weeds in the fields during July!” says the
farmer.

The Devil, now quite upset and deciding to make the
farmer really suffer, returns to his controls and
cranks the! heat up to 115 degrees and the humidity to
100%.

“Now we'll see if that farmer is smiling!” he thinks
as he goes looking for the farmer again.

Finding him sitting on the floor happy as ever, the
Devil is madder than before. When he asks the farmer
why he's happy now, the farmer answers, “This is
great, it's just like driving the combine in July!”

That was enough for the Devil. Running back to his
controls, he turns the temperature down to a freezing
10 degrees below zero. Within a matter of minutes, the
pools of molten brimstone begin to ice over. “Let's
see what that farmer has to say about this,” snickers
the Devil to himself.

To his surprise, the Devil returns to find the farmer
running around and jumping for joy, yelling at the top
of his lungs: “The Chiefs won the SuperBowl! I can't
believe it! The Chiefs won the SuperBowl!”
23 July 2005
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Ceallach (Anonymous) says…

OTTR: Happy Birthday, whatever the year, celebration is in order! Hope the next year is your best so far :)

sun_sue: I liked your joke a lot. Nothing to worry about there. It's not a cold day in hell today, but the Royals did win last night and hopefully they will tonight. Most of my family will be there for George Brett night!! (I've had too many birthdays to go stand in line at 4:00 for a GB t-shirt on the hottest day of the year :)

To beat the heat? Drink lots of water. If you enjoy other cooling drinks you should still drink an equal amount of good old H2O to keep hydrated. Stay in the AC if possible.

goatdog: What brings you back to the board this fine summer day? I think maybe you stopped reading too soon. At the end of the Book you will find that Christ will be victorious at the end of the only war that truly matters to our eternal souls. Greed is not a Christian attribute, unfortunately some Christians may not have conquered that in their personal lives but that is due to their old nature, not the Spirit of Christ. Now about the grease — I've been to altogether too many church dinners to discount the attraction of grease. But there again, nothing to do with submitting your life to Christ and asking Him to help you overcome the things that are keeping you from having an abundant life, things like greed for example.
23 July 2005
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

water, hats, stay indoors as much as possible, and hottruckinmama put it best: “suck it up.”

Now, regarding yesterday, and way off topic statements and questions about the Bible, I meant no offense to good people like ms_canada, fangorn, sun_sue, etc… It (probably) won't happen again.

But yesterday, on a question about security cameras(?), Liberty went on the offensive by claiming that non-Christians have no choice but to act like animals!!! {Liberty's actual quote: “KU has had an atmosphere of anti-God (so what is left but to act like an animal?) and they are reaping the results of it with higher crime.”}

As a decent, happily married (nearing 20 years), well adjusted (sort of), non-crime committing, non-Christian person who cares deeply about all people and would love for this to be a world without hate, guns, war, etc., Liberty's very ugly and offensive words were taken as fighting words.

But instead of attacking him, I actually used humor (indeed, somewhat twisted) to ask some questions based on things found in the Bible. They also aren't my questions. I “borrowed” them from another source, and indicated in the post that they were old questions. They are actually questions that have been used to show the foolishness of people like Fred Phelps who use the Bible, including Leviticus, to support their hate of others, especially homosexuals. (Am I wrong to question Phelps's use of the Bible to support his beliefs?)

So, I would never attack a person for stating “I love God,” or “I was filled with the spirit in church yesterday,” in this or any other forum. That would be mean, and who am I to question that type of statement. However, if you come on here and write something like “I love God, and if you don't you are an animal,” well then …

xoxo b
23 July 2005
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Ceallach (Anonymous) says…

beatrice: I cannot and would not try to speak for other Christians on this board. No one, Christian or non is more offended than I am by Fred Phelps, his pornographic posters and declarations of hate made in the name of our loving God. Several years ago I had to explain to my junior high aged granddaughter why insults were hurled at us and why I insisted that she make no eye contact or try to read their signs. Our transgression? I was introducing her to opera via a performance of “Madam Butterfly” at the Lied Center. This was supposed to be a special night for the two of us with dinner and the performance. We later talked about the hate mongering words she heard, and why the Phelps crew did not represent God. They merely used little snippets from the Bible, taken out of context, to vent their hatred. I reminded her that having hatred for other people was never acceptable. In some circumstances you may hate what they have done, but we do not have the right, before God, to hate the people themselves.

Many times our comments when read by others appear much more harsh than was intended by the poster. This has happened to me several times. I now try to be very careful about how my statements might be interpreted by others.

I do not recall the day, but in the last week or so, one of our regular posters made reference to mankind being, in fact, just another animal. I don't recall that post being a topic of controversy, admittedly many times at work I can only take a few minutes to follow the posts, so I may not have seen a reply to their statement. I do not think men and women are animals, and I do not believe there are excuses for people acting like animals. I love God, and if you don't ….. I still don't think that you are an animal :)
23 July 2005
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ms_canada (Anonymous) says…

beatrice - I very much appreciate your comments just above. And yes I agree with you that the comment by liberty seemed rather hateful. Sometimes when we post, we write one thing and mean another. For some people it is difficult to express just what we mean to say. Perhaps that is what happened with liberty and his comment that you quoted. I think he was trying to say that when God is taken out of the equation, it can and frequently does lead to anarchy or at least some lawlessness.
It is also true that many horrendous acts have been perpetrated in the name of God. For instance the Spanish Inquisition. Have you ever read descriptions of the terrible cruel tortures enacted upon the Jews in those days, by the infamous, Torquemada, the grand inquisitor. And what happened when the conquistadores came to the New World and tried enforcing Christianity upon the native people, Have you read about that?
But that is not reason enough to throw the baby out with the bath water. All Christians are not like that. Surely we have learned something from history. Unfortunately, it is the outspoken and frequently poorly spoken Christian of today that gets the limelight and puts the whole church in bad repute. How many quietly worshipping, good living people get their name in the news.
So, Bea, I understand where your first post of today came from, but I beg you don't hold liberty's comments against all Christian people. And I really don't believe that you do. I think you are most likely a very fine person. I hope you can find a way to keep cool in the heat of Kansas. Here in Edmonton we have the World Masters Games going on with contestants from all over the world and the weather is just right. Not too hot, not too cool. I hope it holds for my family barbeque tomorrow to celebrate my hubbies birthday. Dios te bendiga.
23 July 2005
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

Ceallach: I accept the peace offering. I hope you enjoyed the opera, and I don't think you are an animal either. And it is always nice to hear Christians speak up against Phelps.

Just one tiny aside: to claim that mankind is one of the many species within the animal kingdom is not the same as saying non-Christians, because they don't believe in the Christian God, have no choice but to act like animals (in the original context, animal really meaning depraved criminal). I might like to monkey around every now and then, but that is by choice and doesn't include committing crimes. That is probably why people, including myself, didn't react to the earlier posting.

Now, lets hug it out. : )
23 July 2005
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ms_canada (Anonymous) says…

das ubermime - very well said. It is all very much fun to fool around and have what I call **silly**days and have a good laugh, but when it is at the expense of another that is down right cruel and should be beneath our dignity. Is that not true? Thanks for your comments, das ubermime
Incidently, I looked up ubermime. very interesting!! Watch those hands, das, laddie.

23 July 2005
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ms_canada (Anonymous) says…

beatrice - consider yourself hugged. :o)
23 July 2005
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

Hugs coming right back at ya ms_c. I hope the weather is perfect for your bbq tomorrow.

Das_U, you put it very well. I don't think I have ever resorted to direct name-calling myself here, but I am absolutely quilty of being WAY sarcastic — especially around the smoking ban issue (watched my sister die of lung cancer not too long ago, so the whole issue really does bother me) and the fireworks ban issue (didn't grow up with them, don't really like them, and don't want my house to burn down). But you are right, clever banter and thoughtful choice of words to discuss or argue a topic is best.

Finally, to extreme-m. Of course we can make peace with Fred. This is the Land of Oz, and once he gets a brain …

(Okay, Fred remains an open target for name-calling and ridicule.)
23 July 2005
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sunflower_sue (Anonymous) says…

Beatrice, I think that most Christians probably do not agree with Phelps! (Personally, I think he already has a special hot seat just waiting for him one day).

I've had to walk my 2 young daughters past him and his hate slinging hoard on several occassions. One of these times, we were committing the awful sin of attending Christmas Vespers! All of the other times it was for enjoying family performances at the Lied Center.
23 July 2005
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sunflower_sue (Anonymous) says…

Ms_C, Going out so I'll have to read your reply later, but I'm wondering if you've ever heard of our infamous Fred Phelps? We have a great bumper sticker in these parts expressing exactly what most of us think of him.
23 July 2005
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smitty (Anonymous) says…

Phonics, phonics, phonics! Ph**k Phred, phonetically speaking of course. His survival is a testimony to how restrained the lesbians and gays are in the heat of bashing. Whatever happened to that lesbian who drove up on the sidewalk but somehow managed not to kill him?

I support drivers ed and mercy killing!
23 July 2005
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smitty (Anonymous) says…

In regards to Phred the phallic phool, very.
23 July 2005
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enochville (Anonymous) says…

Apparently I missed a very intense exchange yesterday. I read the topic for the day and decided not to return to “On the Street” yesterday. I like thought provoking questions where we can really discuss issues that matter. I personally don't care for “who is your favorite star trek character?” questions, but that is just my opinion and I am sure there must be other posters that like it.
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Liberty (Anonymous) says…

Hi Beatrice,

I did not realize that you would jump to the conclusion that you thought that I was calling you specifically an animal (something that I don't engage in is personal attacks like that on individuals). The statement was a statement of fact, not aimed at you personally, but a biblical stance described in the New Testament and widely known for which I do not apologize. It simply is saying that if we drift away or turn away and reject the Lord God, the only direction left to a society is to turn and act without morals and more animal like (degrade much like today's society). Just as Jesus stated when he described the world's state in the time of Noah, (being full of corruption) so it will be before He returns to the earth. It is stated in the book to the Romans as well. It is a biblical stance from Paul and Jesus, not an attack on you, because I do not know you personally, nor would I find it my place to point you out specifically to try to offend you in front of everyone (that would not be right in the eyes of God). It would serve no purpose.

I thought it strange why you would freak out and attack so viciously in your response like you did, but I understand now from what you wrote, if you applied it personally to yourself that it could bring about misplaced anger.

If it was offensive to you I apologize as apparently you took it out of context and applied it to yourself. I extend an olive branch to you and ask your forgiveness and proper understanding of scripture.

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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

Liberty, not all people believe in the scripture. Some of us believe that there is a God, but we have no idea of what Her true nature is. : )

So you see, your “facts” are not universally held as such. I also see that since you are still making this statement I did not, in fact, take your comments out of context. I have “drifted” as you say, but I am still a moral person. Who are you to say otherwise? So either your attack was aimed indirectly at me, or it isn't a “fact.”

Peace and happiness, b
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Liberty (Anonymous) says…

Beatrice, I am glad that you are a moral person and I believe that you are a moral person and a non criminal. In this you do well. But I encourage you as a non-christian to search the scriptures not as an attack on you, but as a method to save your soul and find peace with God and come to know Him as He is ready and waiting to accept you through His Son if you can accept Jesus' sacrifice on the cross for your sins and for the whole world's sins (including mine). He loves you very much, enough to send His Son to die for you.

I still strive to be as graceful as He is with words. Please forgive my short comings in this area.

Peace and happiness be with you as well. L
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1derer (Anonymous) says…

A truth does not have to be universally held to be true. The one and only God of creation remains the God of creation whether or not the creation accepts that fact as being true.
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ms_canada (Anonymous) says…

well said 1derer - it makes no difference if a 100 million people believe that the moon is made of green cheese, it still will not be made of green cheese.
Our LORD God will always be God El Shaddai, Elohim, Adonai, the Creator, the Saviour.