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What should be done to improve traffic flow in Lawrence?

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“All I think really needs to be done is have better traffic signals and a separate lane for bikes and motorcycles.”

“Mainly, I think it would make more sense if they didn’t tear up major roads all at once.”

“More lanes and fill up potholes. Potholes are the big thing.”

“We need to put in some highways, like Topeka.”


been_there 10 years, 4 months ago

A little early April Fool's joke from LJW?

BigPrune 10 years, 4 months ago

The SLT will not remove congestion anywhere. Just ask the people who live in west Lawrence, where the major streets have very little if any congestion, namely Clinton Parkway west of Kasold and Wakarusa.

been_there 10 years, 4 months ago

Turn lane with maybe a turn signal at 9th and Tennesee for west bound traffic.

ksdivakat 10 years, 4 months ago

There are 2 kinds of drivers in this town, those who can and those who cant. I suggest, take the ku students, give them their own roadway, OR, make them take a ks driving test before they can get on the road!!

deskboy04 10 years, 4 months ago

Build the trafficway. It will reduce congestion. Until it is built, the traffic on 23rd Street will continue to be heavy.

gccs14r 10 years, 4 months ago

Put the trolley tracks back in and expand the system to cover every half mile. Run them on a varying-density schedule, with more frequent service during the morning and evening rushes and lunchtime, with less-frequent service during evenings and weekends. Run the system 24/7 so that people know they can get home from a trip out. Allow transfers at any intersection point so it doesn't take two hours to get from Free State to Haskell.

jonas 10 years, 4 months ago

Informed: I think the point was, more, why are you living in Lawrence? There's plenty of housing available in Lenexa and Olathe, should you not wish to commute.

More practically, you could take 31st, 27th, or 19th street and see a profound difference in your traffic difficulties.

Personally, I think the SLT would almost be rendered moot by the addition of two stop lights, one at 31st and Haskell favoring Haskell, and one at 31st and Louisiana favoring 31st.

kneejerkreaction 10 years, 4 months ago

Lawrence has traffic problems? The cure? Go live in a city with real traffic problems and come back. You won't have any traffic problems in Lawrence anymore.

mr_economy 10 years, 4 months ago

Fill in the damned potholes. The ones I've seen this past week are large enough to be potentially damaging to any vehicle unfortunate enough to roll over them, and potentially deadly to any two-wheeled vehicles. The obvious solution is to avoid them, but that's not exactly possible during rush hour bumper-to-bumper traffic or at night on poorly-lit streets (which is most of Lawrence).

cdc 10 years, 4 months ago

Things to improve traffic flow:

  1. Don't drive. It's cheaper! It saves money! It's healthier for you!

  2. Live close to where you work.

  3. What kneejerkreaction said:

"Go live in a city with real traffic problems and come back. You won't have any traffic problems in Lawrence anymore."

Richard Heckler 10 years, 4 months ago

Eliminate the number of cars during the two rush hours 7AM - 6:30PM: Ride the bike = dollars and sense Walk = dollars and sense Ride the T = dollars and sense Catch the K-10 connector = dollars and sense Move closer to the job = very very smart Put 4-5 people per car = helps some Realize life could be worse = far less stress

New roads bring more cars = more roads that bring more cars= increased taxes = congestion never goes away = makes no dollars and sense

Requires 10's of millions upon 10's of millions upon 10's millions upon 10's of millions to provide for car traffic yet still car traffic is never happy

$200 million for a bypass that brings more cars = makes no dollars and sense

Wherever roads go so go Lawrence homebuilders( keeps taxes high) = more and more cars = makes no dollars and sense

Richard Heckler 10 years, 4 months ago

More roads bring financial stress:

"If residential growth paid for itself and was financially positive, we would not be in a budget crunch." "But with increased numbers of houses you have increased demand on services, and historically the funding of revenues generated by single-family housing does not pay for the services, they require from a municipality."

been_there 10 years, 4 months ago

Merrill--so what about apartment buildings and condos? I have noticed a huge increase in apartment, duplex, and condo building going on especially out west and yet I see for rent signs all over town. There doesn't seem to be a rental shortage, in fact quite the opposite, but we keep building. So do they pay for themselves as far as services when we don't seem to really need them?

misseve 10 years, 4 months ago

Traffic on 23rd St is a mess. With people trying to avoid it , now 31st and 27th are just as bad. There needs to be a better way to get from K10 to Wakarusa.

been_there 10 years, 4 months ago

Makes one wonder why they keep building west if most commuters work east?

grimpeur 10 years, 4 months ago

Develop a truly regional transit system that recognizes that people need to travel between cities in the I-70 and K-10 corridors and environs--from Topeka to Independence (heck, St. Joe) and from Gardner to Leavenworth--and to local destinations at the termini. This will also require recognizing that we cannot afford the current personal auto-funding scheme. Rail, buses and carpools must be given higher priorities in future KDOT and municipal budgets. New rail will have to be built to give working commuters their deserved priority over freight.

More lanes? You want more traffic? You got it!

SLT? 23rd St.? Most 23rd St. traffic is going to/from 23rd St. or KU. There would of course be a measurable shift in traffic to the SLT, but little improvement in traffic flow on 23rd. St.

The only way to improve traffic flow in Lawrence is to reduce the number of cars on the road. This requires that governments provide alternatives here and in the cities which serve as the origins and destinations of that traffic; remove the incentives that encourage people to drive; and provide incentives to make smart choices about carpooling.

misseve 10 years, 4 months ago

Typically i dont resort to posting off topic, but Jack you are a moron... I was hardly kidding nor are the others who post on here. You have to admit the traffic signals are far from efficient from one part of town to the other. I wouldnt complain if i had no children to transport and have stay with grandma while i work because i live less than 5 minutes from K10. My mother lives off 6th and Kasold so i have to go from K10 to Kasold to get my children then back to my side of town all this is at 7am... Now genius, tell me how taking the turnpike would be helpful?

BigPrune 10 years, 4 months ago

Informed, my attempt at humor. The roads out west aren't congested because of the SLT.

been_there 10 years, 4 months ago

JackRipper--ok, no thinking. How about a traffic signal at I believe it is 27th and Haskell, it's hard to pull out onto Haskell, and some of those Westar drivers will take the right of way whether they have it or not. A right hand turn lane going north at 19th and Iowa by the fire station would help. I hate getting stuck there behind a semi. It takes them forever to be able to get going with the hill. A double turn lane at 15th and Iowa turning onto Bob Billings street, and why didn't they put in a right hand turn lane at 19th and Haskell going east when they had the intersection redone a few years ago? A traffic light at 31st and Louisianna, I think the highway dept has some say so in that. I stay off of 23rd as much as possible so I have no suggestions there, but a turn lane down 19th between Iowa and Ousdahl. Always see traffic backed up from people trying to make a left hand turn. It is hard to make a left hand turn onto Tennessee off of 6th. I usually go up a block then come back to Tennessee. How about the rest of you that travel on 6th?

misseve 10 years, 4 months ago

For heavens sake, if everyone moved to save a drive then people would be moving all the time... .The question IS what can be done to improve traffic flow... EITHER way for me i have the job of crossing town more than once a day. getting the traffic signals in sync would be a nice start. I have been in KC, hell i have even commuted there and frankly don't mind the traffic persa. I don't get stuck at traffic lights that at times don't even work... Tell you what genius, why don't you bus my kids around so i can just leave my house hop on 31st then K10 and not have to really worry about the traffic??? It seems all you do is have a bunch of hot air but no reasonable solutions for those of us who live in reality. As to the SLT i don't see that as a solution either, maybe get rid of that stinky swamp but other than that it will not fix all that ails us.

jonas 10 years, 4 months ago

"And as to why I live in Lawrence, I didn't realize I needed to defend that."

Not until you start demanding (or expecting) other people to change their behavior rather than yourself. At that point, I think its fair we ask you to defend yourself.

Dixie Jones 10 years, 4 months ago

yeah you can get diffrent things everytime you click on here, i think ljw needs to quit worrying about things they cant fix and fix their dang web site.. i for one i would like to see a biker lane to get the stupid A@@ bikers off the sides of the streets, it wouldnt be bad if they didnt think you owed them the entire lane. they need to use common sense .....oh wait never mind that dont exist with them.

misseve 10 years, 4 months ago

JackRipper (Anonymous) says:

Wow, you are upset with me because you don't have your life worked out and it is my fault? Stinky swamp? Yeah, let's not do anything to help our rivers, let's allow more crap to go right into the water ways

Dont kid yourself, im not upset with you i just think your "input" is a bit stupid... You yourself said take the turnpike and i said tell me how that will work. This isnt about how my life is, it is what it is and i deal but i DONT have to like the fact that the traffic flow here is beyond stupid. Tell ya what, why not build a transporter so NONE of us have to drive on any of the roads we have here.
Yes i called the wetlands stinky... i drive by them daily but what does that have to do with the rivers?

Dixie Jones 10 years, 4 months ago

i dont mind if the biker is in the lane where they are required to be its the idoits who ride in the middle or decide to turn in from of you without looking i am speaking of .

Eric Neuteboom 10 years, 4 months ago

To me, people just need to have a basic understanding of traffic patterns. For example, the guy who was in front of me this morning driving 33 mph in the left-hand lane of Clinton Pkwy. If people would just use highway logic on a lot of streets (i.e. slow = right, fast = left) it would improve flow. But no, some people just meander down the road, in whatever lane, going whatever speed. Pay attention to your surrounding, and if you're impeding traffic, either move over or speed up!

misseve 10 years, 4 months ago

Ok Jack you take the bus... Because it doesnt go to my place of employment. You are boring me now... Im going to bed so i can get ready for work tonight...

Eric Neuteboom 10 years, 4 months ago

I know Jack, just irritates me that I'm stuck behind someone going 12 mph UNDER the limit in the left lane. No question highway rules don't apply here, but common sense should.

aginglady 10 years, 4 months ago

Last night I drove down Kasold north of Peterson for the first time since it was opened. TWO roundabouts? I had no idea.

I'm looking into creating a blog, and I can't find where to go.

workinghard 10 years, 4 months ago

This is so funny. A 7yr old forum being kept alive. Great.

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