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Brownback says tax cuts will help the economy; critics say it will damage Kansas

May 19, 2012

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— Gov. Sam Brownback on Saturday said the tax cut he has vowed to sign will stimulate the economy, but a bi-partisan chorus of critics say it will crater schools, social services and public safety.

Gov. Sam Brownback speaks with state Rep. Mitch Holmes, R-St. John, on Saturday.

Gov. Sam Brownback speaks with state Rep. Mitch Holmes, R-St. John, on Saturday.

"I think we are going to be in good shape," Brownback said.

The measure to reduce personal income tax rates and eliminate taxes on non-wage income to nearly 200,000 businesses would cut $4.5 billion in state revenue over six years. Budget deficits have been projected as early as next year, growing to $2.5 billion in 2018.

The reduction in revenue on a state budget that spends approximately $6.2 billion in tax revenues per year will have devastating consequences, critics of the bill said.

"The fact of the matter is the governor has got his way on the tax discussion, and the state is going to be facing enormous deficits for the next several years," said House Minority Leader Paul Davis, D-Lawrence.

Brownback, a Republican, met briefly with the House Republican caucus to congratulate them on its work during the 2012 session. Brownback said as he was walking to his car Friday evening, a man in front of him yelled, "We need jobs." Brownback said, "This tax bill will create the jobs that he is yelling for."

A group called Traditional Republicans for Common Sense, composed of more than 55 former legislators, called on Brownback to veto the tax bill.

“We support tax cuts and have voted for a number of them over the years, but you have to pay for them and roll them out responsibly," said Rochelle Chronister, a former assistant House majority leader and chair of the Kansas Republican Party. "The governor’s tax plan does neither. Instead, it smacks of Washington-style irresponsible spending that places us on a dangerous path, which will have future generations paying for this mistake," she said.

But Brownback said he believes the Kansas economy is performing well and the state is expecting to get more revenues from gaming and severance taxes.

He compared the proposed tax cuts to Reagan-era tax cuts, which he said produced "20 years of sustained economic growth."

Asked if he wanted the Senate to re-consider a proposal that would phase in the tax cuts over a longer period of time, Brownback said, "If they want to, that's their choice," he said.

Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, D-Topeka, said the tax cuts will ruin the budget. "We are not in the business of bankrupting the state of Kansas, and if he signs that bill that is a fiscal Armageddon."

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toe 1 year, 11 months ago

Sometimes games of bluff backfire, but in this case it provided cover. Everyone will remember Brownback signing, but few will remember the Senators and Representatives, a majority, that passed the bill. Good strategy. It guarantees a tax cut and smaller government. The majority wishes of Kansans.

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Paul R Getto 1 year, 11 months ago

"I think we are going to be in good shape," Brownback said." === Remember this faith-based comment from the Governor. This is how voodoo economics works.

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Bob Hechlor 1 year, 11 months ago

Money spent on education and social services saves far more than it costs. If that wasn't a fact, in truth, we would never have spent money for those investments. When we don't spend money to invest in our citizens, we end up spending more on the chaos, law enforcement, prisons, jails, court costs. loss of tax revenue, loss of consumer spending for small businesses and services and on and on it goes. This has already been proven scientifically, over and over. Of course, it has also been proven scientifically, that republicans don't accept scientific findings. Tea party repubs, like Brownback are destroying our economy. Small businesses can't hire now. Big businesses won't hire, because they are already making enough money and if the government lays off people, then that just means more people will join the unemployment lines as long as they last. After that, we can watch the homeless and hungry grow. That is actually what we saw when Reagan was in office. I remember. Clinton brought the economy back, after Reagan ran up the debt and put people out of work.

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mikekt 1 year, 11 months ago

When all of those State Employees stop visiting Your businesses', when the highways aren't fixed( as needed ), not to mention loosing teachers & selling medical schools (?) ( who would want to do business in an unskilled, uneducated, Hill-Billy State of Kansas? ), when the fire fighters, police, ambulance can't make it to your house in a reasonable amount of time or when they throw your Grandmother or Parents out of the nursing facility & cut back their employees. creating less jobs..... & headaches for you to deal with,.......you might? just might... figure it out? Or maybe you're waiting for your sales & property taxes to go up to pay for it all-somehow? Do we really get something for nothing in this world? Did you not learn a thing from "G.W.Bush-The King Of Tax Cutters" & our huge Federal Deficit that needs paying, that you will pay someday from your pockets & your children's pockets? Have not human jobs been replaced by computers in offices & robots that assemble cars in factories? So what jobs are they bringing? Cerner Corp. or Google? I don't think that they're LLCs or S Corps? And they were already coming because the business environment was so awful! Right! I guess that Sam can count them as new jobs for his tax cuts? HA,HA,HA! LLCs' & S corps are just either Tax or Financial Liability Escapes, against court ordered $ actions against one of the partners of jointly held assets- said very simply. ( LLCs' are closer than a Cayman Islands Bank Account & a judge could force you to bring that cash back to the USA, to force you settle a debt from a law suit that you lost or let you sit in a jail cell, as you so please to do, so why even do it, if you plan to stay or live in the USA? ) Get an LLC if you plan to damage others & to get sued allot! Brownbacks LLC tax cuts just means more rich dead beats who don't pay taxes to Kansas, who have probably invested their money in something, in some other state or nations, who will live here and expect state government services, none the less. WOO-HOO!!! Whatever you guys are smoking you should patent it & sell it to street fools (!) , because you folks that think that this is all some big joke are going to end up on the receiving end of that joke some day just as you will end up paying off the "Bush National Debt" or living thru the financial collapse of this country ( or this state ) some day, because of "your best thinking", ( if you can call that thinking?).........& what you just might end up with, could rival Joseph Stalin or Adolph Hitler, at their worst of behaviors because a starving willing mob with nothing to loose might follow anybody?!

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booyalab 1 year, 11 months ago

I was going to joke about the "bipartisan" critics, but then I realized there are probably a lot of anti-free market republicans in Kansas. It would be an explanation for this being a supposedly conservative state that does so much to discourage new economic development. "Country club republicans"

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booyalab 1 year, 11 months ago

Everyone knows that higher taxes help the economy.

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mikekt 1 year, 11 months ago

Ladies & Gentlemen! Welcome aboard the Tax Cutting Cruise Ship, The S.S.KANSAS! Your Captain for todays cruise is none other than our very own Wild & Crazy Governor, Sam Brownback! For your enjoyment Wild & Crazy Governor Sam is going to run a coarse that parallels the Kansas Coastline, so that you can take breath taking pictures of coastal Kansas & wave at your less effluent acquaintances on shore. Don't be alarmed If you should notice that this boat has no life boats. life vests, etc The S.S. Kansas is, after all, certified by the Great Imperial Kansas Legislative Wizards ( of OZ ) as being....... Unsinkable!!!!!! Sources close to the Governor also confirm that the S.S. KANSAS is unsinkable.... & that the very idea is unthinkable! This information has also been confirmed by the Official Holly Rolling Seers of The Great State of KANSAS ( i.e., the kook brothers ) in a vision that, no doubt, came to them from God.
Sorry, but we can not confirm weather their visions have come from the Upstairs Heavenly Father or the Downstairs God of Eternal Hell Fire. We just report the news that they given to us to tell!

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yourworstnightmare 1 year, 11 months ago

If Brownback truly believed that tax cuts will stimulate the economy, he would sign this extreme bill before him right now.

He realizes that these tax cuts will hurt the economy and damage public schools and social services. He doesn't want to be the one held responsible for that. He wants to make it look like the tax cuts were a broad compromise between many factions, to spread the blame when they damage the economy and harm public schools and social services.

Be a man, Brownback, and sign the extreme bill before you right now.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 11 months ago

T. Boone Pickens Calls Koch Bros Biggest Deterrent to US Energy Policy

It's pretty amazing to think that just 2 men are responsible for holding an entire country - the US - back from being able to implement a responsible energy policy.

Even Mexico and Peru have one, but not the US.

In an interview this week with Yahoo's Daily Ticker, T. Boone Pickens says his biggest concern right now is that the US doesn't have an energy policy and he points directly at the Koch Bros as the reason.

"The biggest deterrent to an energy plan in America is Koch Industries," he says. "They do not want an energy plan for America because they have the cheapest natural gas price they've ever had, and they're in the fertilizer business and they're in the chemical business. So their margins are huge. And they do not want you to have an energy plan, because if you had a plan, then natural gas prices would come up."

Germany, on other other hand, can decarbonize with renewables because "We Don't Have the ... Koch Brothers," said a German State Minister. He referred to their lobbying for fossil fuels and against clean energy, and its spending on climate science disinformation through the front group Americans for Prosperity. They have outspent even ExxonMobil.

Meanwhile, another Koch Bros-backed group, The Heartland Institute, has launched one of the most offensive billboard campaigns in U.S. history, reports the Guardian.

It compares people who accept the facts of climate science, including journalists who report on it accurately, to Charles Manson, the Unabomber, and Osama Bin Laden.

Heartland Billboard

Heartland is holding a Climate Change "Reality" Conference later this month in Chicago to further spin their misinformation campaign.

General Motors and AT&T pulled their support of Heartland, but State Farm and Microsoft, along with many others are still there including Eli Lilly & Co., GlaxoSmithKline, Nucor, Pfizer, and Time Warner Cable.

Why did Heartland feature Charles Manson, the Unabomber, and Osama Bin Laden.these people on its billboards?

*** Here's their answer (which is on the conference website along with the billboard proudly displayed):

Wow - you can't make this stuff up!!

http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/23679

Read:

Koch Bros At It Again, Blocking Clean Fuels Mandates

Kochs, Climate Change Denial Infiltrating Nation's Classrooms

http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/23679

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commonsenseanyone 1 year, 11 months ago

There are 8/9 states with no income tax, 5/6 with no sales tax, and a handful with no property taxes. Are they in some statewide starvation? Crippled by unemployment? NO! We have all three major taxes! Give me a break people and quit trying to scare everybody.

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softsun 1 year, 11 months ago

The Kansas State Chamber gets their tax cut and tees up Lawrence to be annexed into the conservative 1st congressional district smothering the liberal Lawrence and during the destruction, the Lawrence Chamber of Commerce continues as a full member of the Kansas Chamber of Commerce. Many local Chambers have already made their statement by quitting the Kansas Chamber.

Many Lawrence taxpayers are surprised to learn the Lawrence Chamber is still a member of the State Chamber who supported the tax cut. As membership continues to decrease in the Lawrence Chamber, the Lawrence taxpayers continue to pick up the ever increasing tab for the Lawrence Chamber of Commerce. Today, over half of the cost of the Lawrence Chamber, are paid for by Douglas County and City of Lawrence taxpayers, over, $500,000 annually. According to their own tax report, Douglas County and the City of Lawrence pay more to subsidize the Lawrence Chamber of Commerce than the dues of the Lawrence Chamber Members. It is ridicules. Simply said, it is also ridicules for the taxpayers of Lawrence, through membership in the Kansas Chamber to actually help pay for their own demise.

Our County and City elected officials today are are people of duty. Yet some say "it is a step in the right direction" to seek ways to send more money to the Lawrence Chamber, who through its membership in Kansas Chamber and its PAC have targeted for defeat everything the elected in Lawrence stand for! ridiculous!!++

The results are in. Headlines - Topeka — Gov. Sam Brownback said, "“I look forward to signing the bill on my desk and I call on legislators to finalize their work on the budget." Based on the enactment of the so-called “nuclear option” tax cut bill he is referring to, personal income tax rate reductions and elimination of taxes on business - non-wage income of nearly 200,000 businesses would cut $4.5 billion in state revenue over six years. Budget deficits have been projected as early as next year. Projected deficits have all but the most conservative of legislators deeply concerned for the state’s future. Many believe the cuts will do major damage. Tax revenue will be replaced by sales and property tax money. Critics say the large Brownback tax cuts "will absolutely destroy Kansas as we know it" – leaving a $2.7 Billion crater in the budget by 2018. The Bill will deplete state coffers making it impossible for the state to adequately fund schools, which have already sustained cuts during the recession. Tax cuts will only shift the burden to local governments resulting in an increase in property taxes. BTW, guess who's moving to Lawrence, to perhaps take over the top job at the State Chamber? "Brownback administration pleased with O’Neal; others aren’t" Look at the Kansas Chamber opening remark on their legislative agenda, "each year we let each legislator know what is expected of them. No kidding, See for yourself... http://www.kansaschamber.org/advocacy...

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WilburM 1 year, 11 months ago

Quote: "Brownback, a Republican, met briefly with the House Republican caucus to congratulate them on its work during the 2012 session. "

What? Congratulate them on the worst legislative session in memory? This is totally whacked. No redistricting maps approved. A grossly irresponsible tax cut passed. And he congratulates them? We really have stepped into an Alice-in-Wonderland setting. this is nuts.

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anotherview 1 year, 11 months ago

Why is Brownback going to Wichita to sign this bill? Is it because the Koch brothers live there?

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Crazy_Larry 1 year, 11 months ago

Brownback always looks like he's high on something....glassy-eyed kermit the stoner. Hey Sham! Have you ever heard about James Madison, father of our Bill of Rights? I have a great quote from him you might like:

"Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." [James Madison, A Memorial and Remonstrance, addressed to the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia, 1785]

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JackMcKee 1 year, 11 months ago

Anyone else notice that Sam looks a lot like a drunk frog?

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JayhawkFan1985 1 year, 11 months ago

Brownback will burn Kansas before he is through. Mark my words.

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mikekt 1 year, 11 months ago

Brownbacks' "Texas model of tax cuts", only grew the Texas economy by 15%. Unfortunately, it would take a 50% Growth rate in the State of Kansas to keep up with "Brownbacks' Master Tax Cut Plan"! Sounds like a plan to me?! The plan of a governor & his legislature, all of whom need to have Psychological Evaluations!

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Jayhawk1958 1 year, 11 months ago

Time to leave the state while you still have the chance....

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Jayhawk1958 1 year, 11 months ago

Can our great Governor share any stats and research on how many of these "new jobs" will be created? Or is it just a blanket pie in the sky statement?

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Gandalf 1 year, 11 months ago

Evilsam's goal is to recreate a new middle easty in Kansas. First step destroy all scholls and trample any signs of compassion.

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bigtoe 1 year, 11 months ago

Be sure and write Rep, Huelskamp and tell him how much you hate your Governor.

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Phillbert 1 year, 11 months ago

He compared the proposed tax cuts to Reagan-era tax cuts, which he said produced "20 years of sustained economic growth."

Not only is our Governor ignorant of economics, he's ignorant of history, even of his party's own beloved President Reagan.

Reagan passed tax cuts early in his administration. They cratered the budget (sound familiar?), so he then raised taxes. Not enough to avoid more than a decade of deficits, of course. Those only went away under Clinton.

Of course, Kansas can't run deficits, so hopefully nobody in the state needs any schools, universities, roads, prisons, law enforcement, or health care these next few years...

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Crazy_Larry 1 year, 11 months ago

May 15, 2012 - Workers at Jostens plant in Kansas mull their futures after company says jobs moving to Tenn. http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/41112fbf24c44aabb26eeeba793dc88f/KS--Jostens-Topeka-Plant/

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Crazy_Larry 1 year, 11 months ago

Tax cuts for the poor and middle class, and tax increases on the top 1% will help the economy. Watch and learn, Brownback et al.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBx2Y5...

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tir 1 year, 11 months ago

This is insanity! I thought that it was illegal to pass legislation in Kansas that would create a deficit. What happened to the Pay As You Go rule? Why can Brownwhack and Company ignore the very rule the Repugnicans themselves created? This proposed tax cut legislation does not guarantee that jobs will be created by cutting taxes, because it does not include any requirements that the businesses that receive tax cuts use them to create jobs. Brownwhack is flat-out lying to people if he promises them these tax cuts will create jobs and/or increase state revenues to pay for the tax cuts. The only things that are certain is that this bill will create a deficit that will have to be filled with HUGE budget cuts or property tax increases, the rich will get richer (because that's the whole point of the legislation, of course), and the rest of us will pay for it one way or another.

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JackMcKee 1 year, 11 months ago

Brownback said as he was walking to his car Friday evening, a man in front of him yelled, "We need jobs."

And the two middle fingers pointed up to the sky were the man indicating that there was no limit to the number jobs that Sammy's plan could produce.

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4getabouit 1 year, 11 months ago

Brownback always takes the credit. Responsibility and blame are for the common folk. Wingnuts like Brownie never take responsibility. Name the last time any one of them took ownership for the messes they created.

I'm surprised he hasn't bragged about how well he married. His bright economic future is assured given the vast riches of his bride. Who, by the way, is a nice person.

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Joe Hyde 1 year, 11 months ago

"I think we are going to be in good shape,"...the pilot announces to his passengers while donning a Golden Parachute, confident that once the fuel tanks are empty he can eject when the plane spins into freefall.

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Liberal 1 year, 11 months ago

You can not tax your way to prosperity, We need more revenue not more taxes.

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usnsnp 1 year, 11 months ago

Brownback is banking on the Republicans winning the Presidency, then he hopes he will be picked for some cabinet job. If he does not he will find some group of people to blame the failure of his policies on. Brownback is like most politicians, they will never take responsibilities for mistakes they make. Good luck kansas.

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Roland Gunslinger 1 year, 11 months ago

"I think we are going to be in good shape," Brownback said.

I believe those were the exact words of Captain Edward Smith. How'd that work out for him?

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Alyosha 1 year, 11 months ago

We've tried this for 40 years and now have dreadful unemployment.

The goal of tax cuts isn't to create jobs -- because history shows tax cuts do not create jobs. The real goal is simply to starve government of funds so that it cannot protect normal citizens from the power of Brownback's corporate backers.

Kansans, you are being conned.

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