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Archive for Sunday, November 20, 2011

Driver, passenger injured in rollover accident late Friday on U.S. Highway 59

November 20, 2011

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Douglas County Sheriff’s officers responded to a rollover accident on North 1250 Road, near U.S. Highway 59, about 11:45 p.m. Friday. Undersheriff Steve Hornberger said the driver, Madeline Beers, 16, and one of the six juvenile passengers in the vehicle were transported to Lawrence Memorial Hospital. A nursing supervisor at LMH said the driver was treated and released early Saturday. Hornberger said he believed the other person taken to LMH had suffered only minor injuries. He said the driver failed to negotiate a curve in the road, went into the adjacent ditch and rolled the vehicle once. The identity of the second injured person was not available.

Comments

Robert Rauktis 3 years, 1 month ago

She'll be insurable again...say...about age 25.

Why God invented school buses.

januarygirl 3 years, 1 month ago

another roll over how many is that now???? are people not learning about curves and how to drive ,or could it be an attention thing? I"m glad the teens are ok, but so many rollovers this past year.

Beth Ennis 3 years, 1 month ago

actually, there have been a bunch in just the past week. Two in KC and in each a young child about 13YOA was killed. So sad. Glad these kids are ok also. Parent's worst nightmare!

blindrabbit 3 years, 1 month ago

Hope all are OK; I'd like to hear if there were some contributing factors!

kujhawker 3 years, 1 month ago

Contributing factors might include the fact that she's a 16 yr old inexperienced driver, driving late at night, probably paying more attention to talking to her passenger, or fiddling with the stereo and driving too fast...at that age substance abuse does not have to be involved for careless driving to occur...just saying...

CreatureComforts 3 years, 1 month ago

Do tell - is there an age when substance abuse must be involved for careless driving to occur? That's the way you word it...

blindrabbit 3 years, 1 month ago

I have read and seen reported on television by insurance companies that age 16 has by far the worst safety record of any age group, something to do with the development of the human brain at that age (seriously). Apparently, drivers younger than 16, are more likely to destination drive to work or school and therefore not as likely to joyride. Past 16 and the kids seem to start to initiate brain function and therefore do not make as many stupid mistakes.

jlzack 3 years, 1 month ago

Doesn't Kanas have a law against teens driving with more that 1 non related passenger's, when your under 17? I'm guessing that the other 5 were probably non-related....

shadowlady 3 years, 1 month ago

What about 14 year olds??? I know the kids at age 14 are driving to and from school, practices and games and anywhere else, (in and around Pomona) with other kids in the car and no adult 18 or above. Makes me wonder what the cops are doing in that area to let this be going on and where are the parents heads at?? It would be easy to catch them, all ya half to do is find out what the times of school, practices, and games are. If they start catching these kids, then maybe the parents would wake up. 14 is way to young to be driving.

Peaty Romano 3 years, 1 month ago

At 14 you are only supposed to be with a parent driving. What you are describing is 15 YO license. And then you are only allowed to drive to work and school alone. School functions like games and dances do not count, only school. I have a 15 YO now so this is where I am. He also took the Tire Rack Street Survival course: http://www.streetsurvival.org/ something I highly recommend. There will be at least one early next year at Heartland Park.

babyluver13 3 years, 1 month ago

They had all been at a party earlier that night , and drinking. And they all squeezed in a little 5 passenger nissan maxima or something similar.

crazyredneckmomma4 3 years, 1 month ago

First of all Babyluver13-were you there? if not you shouldn't ASSUME anything.... Second of all, my daughter was in this car that rolled over and was given a breath test right in front of me and PASSED!!! so they weren't all drinking. Before making comments you should get your facts right or not say anything at all!!!

Kansan234 3 years, 1 month ago

I agree, everyone saying they were drinking is totally wrong. because I know for a fact nobody was U.T.I

babyluver13 3 years, 1 month ago

funny because the cop on duty was a close relative of mine and i know for a fact at least one of the had been drinking.

crazyredneckmomma4 3 years, 1 month ago

So there is a violation of the Privacy Act on the part of the sheriffs department? Hmmm surprising??? not!!! Thanks for the info. LAWSUIT!!

blindrabbit 3 years, 1 month ago

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Kansan234 3 years, 1 month ago

They were coming to my house, nobody was drinking. My parents don't allow that crap. you disgust me.

Sunny Parker 3 years, 1 month ago

Could be bad parenting! I wonder if the parents knew where the 16 yr old was and what she was up to.

crazyredneckmomma4 3 years, 1 month ago

Babyluver13- you seem to think (think) you know everything. And you seem to think you're better than these kids. I want to know if you were there? if you were then what makes you think you are better than any of the other kids in the car?

babyluver13 3 years, 1 month ago

i was never there i make more responsible decisions than to get in a car with seven people that was the first dumb move and secondly the driver was distracted by the people in the car. heard it from someone in the car.

pickaname 3 years, 1 month ago

So quick to blame others...Who hosted a drinking party...Please, nobody hosted a drinking party! These kids just got off the football field celebrating with classmates, siblings, and parents after winning sub-state. An accidnt renders nothing else, it was an accident! Thank God non of my daughters dear friends were hurt! True the parents probably didnt know where they were, but thats non of anyone elses business but their parents! Believe me, all these kids have hell to pay, and dont need any of you "saints" judging them!

crazyredneckmomma4 3 years, 1 month ago

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crazyredneckmomma4 3 years, 1 month ago

cheeseburger what is pathetic about pickaname's comment? Its what happened, its the truth.

pickaname 3 years, 1 month ago

Not bad parenting at all! Quick to blame again! Out of the stadium at 10. home to shower and change at 10:45, Pizza Shuttle at 11...No drinking, no bad parenting, just kids going to visit another classmate! No time for a "party" with "beers". ACCIDENT people! Thank God none of them or anyone else was killed or seriously injured!

babyluver13 3 years, 1 month ago

They skipped pizza shuttle to go grab a quick drink!

beaujackson 3 years, 1 month ago

Change the law - age 17 to drive with (only 1) unrelated passenger after dark.

John Hamm 3 years, 1 month ago

Sorry "pickaname" you are totally wrong! An accident isn't just an accident. Every accident has a cause and an affect. In this instance there are a number of possible causes: inexperienced driver - 16 years old inattentive driver - celebrating football win, possibly txting, or other diversion excessive speed - "failed to negotiate curve" The list goes on an on but we don't know enough to make a determination. People try to "justify" accidents by saying "it's only an accident" but every accident could have been avoided IF the contributing cause was eliminated beforehand. The affect in this instance is two young people were injured and that's a shame BUT she could have lost control and the vehicle wiped out an entire innocent family!

crazyredneckmomma4 3 years, 1 month ago

OonlyBonly are you serious? If an accident is never an accident then what is an accident? The Merriam-Webster Dictionary states an accident is: an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance. And that's what this was!!!! unless you were there, in the car, no one but the young people involved will ever know exactly what happened or what may have caused the accident.

08Champs 3 years, 1 month ago

Some of the same kids in an accident a couple weeks ago?

babyluver13 3 years, 1 month ago

Yes The one victim that was taken to the hospital was involved in an accident like two weeks before!

nut_case 3 years, 1 month ago

Ban Curves! ...and make roads and tires out of velcro.

Kansan234 3 years, 1 month ago

The sad part, I heard about this before any Law enforcement or family members.. How? because I was the person they were coming to see...

I know everything and the people on here saying that they were "drinking" can go ^$*# themselves because I know everything. I was at the scene of the wreck within 15 minutes of it happening. I know the un named victim who will remain unnamed. I doubt any of you know how close some of them were to dying. My three brothers were in it, and One of them saved another ones life by grabbing him right before his head got smashed.

So anyone who dares say anything more stupid can come say it to me in person.

droppinplates 3 years, 1 month ago

Lol.

" I doubt any of you know how close some of them were to dying." "One of them saved another ones life by grabbing him right before his head got smashed."

Two people treated and released at LMH means nobody was close to dying. And someone grabbing someone else during a rollover or any other MVA, preventing death by head injury, does not happen.

Calm down and quit acting like some punk smart mouth 16 year old. I'm glad your friends and brothers weren't killed.

babyluver13 3 years, 1 month ago

If they were that close to dying they would have all be life - flighted to a hospital with horrific injuries but they werent so yeah...... and i know the unknown victims name also . what now?

Kansan234 3 years, 1 month ago

haha, you must be special. You know nothing about this wreck, that is all I am saying. So get off this troll.

babyluver13 3 years, 1 month ago

i mean im not special anyone can (from the article posted above) see that there were no bad injuries or any coding i think maybe you need to get your facts straight before you go and run your mouth and embarass yourself. SO DUMB!

kujhawker 3 years, 1 month ago

bahahahahaha!!! Good one, atiopatioo!!

Deja Coffin 3 years, 1 month ago

What is the age limit for commenting on here? No offense to any of these kids but I worry that things they post on here in defense or against the victims could effect them within the community or more importantly at school. Please just try and watch what you type because I know you're being anonymous but by giving personal information about yourself or the accident you're opening yourself up for harassment.

pickaname 3 years, 1 month ago

I agree, please be careful Kansan! The people that know the kids in the car know that it was an accident. Yes probably driving to fast, but I do believe persons of age also drive to fast. I have spoken to 1 of the kids in the wreck, and she has learned a hard lesson! She knows how close she came to being seriously injured or even killed. Buy that girl a new pair of tennis shoes, because she will be walking...ALOT! Thank goodness we all have a week off to let this simmer down! Take the advice Kansan, I know who you are and care deeply for some involved. Be careful what you say and ignore the people that want to critique. Let them talk and make asses of themselves! I wish you and your family well this holiday season. Lots to be thankful for, huh?

Charlie Bannister 3 years, 1 month ago

This will be controversial, but I have said for YEARS that 16 year olds generally have no business with a DL. Wait until they are 18. A couple of years will make a difference in their maturity level--maybe. What is wrong with school buses, parents taking them, bicycles, or walking? Kids nowadays have way too much and that leads to them expecting everything handed to them. Make them appreciate what they have and you will ultimately get a much better adult in the process.

droppinplates 3 years, 1 month ago

I have a hard time not allowing a kid to drive until they are old enough to have their arms and legs blown off in war.

Peaty Romano 3 years, 1 month ago

Good grief, we all make mistakes. Everyone seems to forget when they were young. Sounds like no one was seriously hurt and I'm glad for that. I've mentioned this a few times but want to put a plug in for a teen driving school that is super inexpensive but worth it's weight in gold,

http://www.streetsurvival.org/

It's only about 70 bucks but it teaches some real skills with avoiding accidents etc. I'm not affiliated with this other than I had my kid go this year. One on one training with an instructor using your car teaching ABS use, wet and dry skid pad etc. all in a safe place. There should be another one early next year. It's a shame more people don't know about this. Heck I know a lot of adults that could benefit from this type of training.

imastinker 3 years, 1 month ago

It's sad to see some of the parents on here trying to defend the behaviors of kids. There was a fatality accident in tonganoxie this summer with a bunch of kids in cars. I don't know what did or didn't contribute to the accident, but there seem to be a lot of them with large amounts of teens in cars. It could be nothing more than excessive speed with an overloaded (and topheavy) car. That's still driver error.

Parents should be discussing these issues with kids and limiting their driving exposure, not defending what appear to be stupid actions on an internet forum. It's a shame, but these kids will grow up to be adults still thinking the world revolves around them.

pickaname 3 years, 1 month ago

My daughter was not involved, but I have discussed this and intend to add to the discussion on a daily basis. I really think that the parents involved are doing the same thing! This panel discussion is making a parents worst nightmare, (the call about thier child being in an accident) worse. Back off, the only thing that I ever listened to the Clintons say was...It takes a village to raise a child. If you dont have any construstive critisism please keep your wise, mistake free opinions to yourself. The parents and kids involved got the message loud and clear!

Ronnie24 3 years, 1 month ago

This is to all of you that have such negative comments. Tell me that none of you,( at the same age of these kids), ever did anything wrong . I doubt it. Yes there were to many kids together in one car. It sounds like the parents knew what was going on and where the kids were going. The driver mads a mistake. Luckly it turned out that no one was seriously hurt(,thank goodness). But all of you that have NEVER done anything wrong are either self denying or liars.

imastinker 3 years, 1 month ago

We learned from our mistakes, rather than grow up to be parents who tell their kids that it's OK to do things like this and then defend their actions afterwards. I am not talking about the kids, I would have crammed a bunch of kids in my car as a teenager and driven around late at night if they let me too. It's the parents who allow this and then defend the kids that I am talking about.

pickaname 3 years, 1 month ago

So you are saying that you would flip your car on purpose...I do belive that this driver did NOT make a choice to flip her car!

short_one 3 years, 1 month ago

First, I am very thankful none of these kids were seriously injured and will all live to see another day.

However, the statements about not letting kids drive until the are 17 or 18 are just not smart. It has nothing to do with "rights" (although I do think if they are old enough to go to combat, they should be able to drive or drink alcohol)--it is more about structured driving experiences. There have been several studies lately about teen drivers and the common factor for safe vs dangerous drivers seems to be how much experience the kids have had with driving and how distracted they are. Kids who have been driving since they were 14 (with a permit) are much better drivers at 16 or 17 or 18 than kids who don't get their licenses at all until then. The key is to follow the rules the state sets out or go above and beyond those rules--parent the kids and drive WITH them until they can legally AND safely drive alone, don't let them drive with a car full of friends. If they break the rules you set down for them regarding driving, be a parent and do something about it. A new driver at 18 is not any better than a new driver who is 14 or 15 except at least there is a chance that someone will supervise the 14/15 year old. No one is supervising new 18 year old drivers...

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