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City: Toilets around stadium need regulation

With the help of a neighbor near 10th and Illinois, Amy Rzadczynski and her boyfriend had a portable toilet delivered for a 2009 football game day. Rzadczynski said, “Yes, it’s an eyesore but at least they are not using my trees or bushes.” The city is now contemplating regulating portable toilets during game days.

With the help of a neighbor near 10th and Illinois, Amy Rzadczynski and her boyfriend had a portable toilet delivered for a 2009 football game day. Rzadczynski said, “Yes, it’s an eyesore but at least they are not using my trees or bushes.” The city is now contemplating regulating portable toilets during game days.

August 11, 2010

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City discussing regulations for portable toilets during game days

Oread neighborhood residents have complained about the unsightly toilets during football games, but worry what would happen if they weren't available. Enlarge video

Portable toilets on the properties surrounding Memorial Stadium are a necessary evil, property owners told the Lawrence City Commission on Tuesday night.

Without them, Kansas University’s football fans tailgating before games would resort to less attractive alternatives when having to use the bathroom.

“I am just afraid that if we didn’t have other resources than the public restrooms at the stadium for people to use, we would have alleys being used all the time, bushes, trees — anyplace people would think is private to urinate,” property owner Rose Moore said.

The commissioners agreed, saying portable toilets shouldn’t be banned altogether, but regulations need to be in place.

“In my opinion, the more restrictions the better,” Commissioner Mike Dever said. “This is something that needs to be policed because it is a hygiene issue, it is an environmental issue and it is an aesthetic issue.”

The commission directed staff to draft an ordinance that would establish how long portable toilets could be on residential properties and how often they needed to be serviced. No specific time limit was established.

Last fall, residents in the Oread Neighborhood complained when they started noticing portable toilets popping up around the stadium. Property owners who rent out their yards for parking during games were also providing a place for tailgaters to go to the bathroom. Among the residents upset that the portable toilets were in yards all football season was Candice Davis.

“It seems like a neighborhood dumping ground for less than reasonable expectations,” Davis told the commissioners Tuesday night. “I’m fairly certain you wouldn’t approve of your neighborhood having portable toilets.”

Mark Dale-Thompson with Anderson Rentals, the company that provides many of the portable toilets in the neighborhood, assured the commission that the residential properties around the stadium have the top of the line portable toilets and they are serviced shortly after every game.

Requiring the portable toilets to be picked up after every game would increase the cost by about 50 percent, Dale-Thompson said.

The commission discussed allowing the portable toilets to stay for as long as seven days if there are football games on back to back weekends. Otherwise, they shouldn’t be allowed to stay for more than a few days, they said.

“I feel like you can make the case to get rid of them, but you can also make the case they need to be there and are providing a service that is valuable,” Commissioner Lance Johnson said.

Comments

Alceste 4 years, 11 months ago

Candice Davis may be a member of the Oread Neighborhood Association, but she is no longer calling the shots; is not an ONA Board member; and yet the Oread Neighborhood is still subjected to her constant catter wallering about "the neighborhood". Let me submit that the porta's aren't in HER neighborhood at all!

Seems to me that LJWorld staffer Christine Metz ought to be in contact with the official Oread Neighborhood Board and the Association and not disguntled, sore losers which Davis seemingly is. (ONA recreated itself this past February when the prior board was removed in the Associations annual meeting by a newly vibrant membership who had finally had enough with the confederacy of dunces that had been allowed by "City Leaders" to run roughshod over the Oread Neighborhood).

However, it seems that even though Davis was summarily removed from office, she still is able to hold sway with the powers that be. What's that all about?

The article notes: "Last fall, residents in the Oread Neighborhood complained when they started noticing portable toilets popping up around the stadium." Ok....How Many Residents Complained?????

Next, the article notes: "I am just afraid that if we didn’t have other resources than the public restrooms at the stadium for people to use, we would have alleys being used all the time, bushes, trees — anyplace people would think is private to urinate,” property owner Rose Moore said." Ms. Moore is the current PRESIDENT OF THE ONA!!!! Why is she not properly identified in the article??? Why is a non Board member like Candice Davis given the "spot light" and the PRESIDENT of the Neighborhood Association in question isn't even identified???

Clearly, it's just another example of influence peddling and back door deal making. This reality is particularly annoying when we all recognize and understand the very real BLIGHT that exists in the Oread Neigborhood: Go down any alley, if you dare.....in that neighborhood and take a look; take a look at the rotting streets, sidewalks, storm water collection, trash build up, etc. Now those are all very real and very large problems that need far more attention that portas. What's really funny is that one never reads about the likes of Davis complaining about these meat and potatoe matters because HER STREET IS JUST DANDY.

larrytdog 4 years, 11 months ago

Necessary "evil"? Ms. Metz, what meeting were you at? The commission determined that the toilets were necessary, but that they just didn't want them left in the neighborhood when not in use.

The only "evil" discussed was the possibility of 900 gallons of post process, light beer being dumped behind every tree and bush in the neighborhood when the "potties are icky" crowd forces the commission to double the prices for the few people who are doing the responsible thing and renting toilets.

puddleglum 4 years, 11 months ago

yeah, any women with hypenated last names are liberals and evils and stuff like that.

areyouserious 4 years, 11 months ago

Rodney Jones sold all the tickets, no money left!

emaw 4 years, 11 months ago

I would gladly pee on a pottie with a jayhawk emblem on it! haha

Chris Golledge 4 years, 11 months ago

...and the other team's sticker placed strategically inside?

Chris Ogle 4 years, 11 months ago

Portable Toilets seem like a reasonable solution. What else are we supposed to do??? Well as they say....... Depends (pun intended)

John Spencer 4 years, 11 months ago

Make them all stay in the stadium till a new force of trained Bladder aware police makes sure every man woman and child has emptied their bladder in accordance with the soon to be drafted Bladder-Hood Protection Act.

1983Hawk 4 years, 11 months ago

KUAD needs to pay for the servicing, upkeep and maintenance of these in exchange for selling advertising on them, which would be no less egregious than the ads they sell on every square inch inside the stadium. Delta Dental and Sprint signs can be posted on the port-a-john doors.

Vinny1 4 years, 11 months ago

  1. Who really cares if someone is peeing in the bushes? Big deal. It doesn't hurt anything, and no it doesn't kill the bushes.

  2. Whats wrong with the porta-potties. Its about the most logical idea out there. If I want to put a porta-potty on my property, to service my guests, you better know damn well I will.

deec 4 years, 11 months ago

Perhaps you'd care to post your address so we can all whizz by there, since its no big deal?

Danimal 4 years, 11 months ago

“In my opinion, the more restrictions the better,” Commissioner Mike Dever said.

And the chorus of stupid continues in the city commission. Porta-johns may not be the most attractive thing, but they are absolutely necessary. I know that they're cleaned in short order after the games and I imagine they are in some way secured. This is just another case of people who want to live in Lawrence and have all the privileges and conveniences of living in a city with a large university with none of the drawbacks.

kcgregory 4 years, 11 months ago

"In my opinion, the more restrictions the better,” Commissioner Mike Dever said.

This is a very troubling statement. I've never found this to be the case for anything, let alone this issue.

Chris Golledge 4 years, 11 months ago

Seriously, does anyone believe that someone would put one of these in their yard if they didn't feel there was a need?

Or, that they'd be inclined to just leave it there to stew, on their own property? I suppose if you had rental property you could abuse your renters that way, but there must be some recourse already in place for that kind of thing.

I really don't see the need for more regs for these. Heck, 100 years ago, every back yard had an outhouse. Not that I'd want to go back to that; I'm just saying that it isn't that big a deal.

Rokchalk 4 years, 11 months ago

Consumer1.....LMAO! >>Public restrooms at 10th and Louisiana <<>>NOW OPEN!!<<

verity 4 years, 11 months ago

How about putting clapboard siding on them so they look like an old-fashioned outhouse? I think that would be quite attractive.

ryknow1976 4 years, 11 months ago

What a crappy situation. The city really needs to wipe this problem away. I'm pissed.

BorderRuffian 4 years, 11 months ago

“In my opinion, the more restrictions the better,” Commissioner Mike Dever said. “This is something that needs to be policed because it is a hygiene issue, it is an environmental issue and it is an aesthetic issue.”

What TYPICAL Larryville rhetoric! More restrictions, more regulations, more govenment interference. Why not just make it illegal to take a dump ANYWHERE in Lawrence - private, public, or commercial? After all, taking a dump or taking a whiz isn't something the beautiful people would ever do.

Because it is a hygene issue? ARE YOU KIDDING??? Is Dever now suggesting it is MORE hygenic to take a dump in the alley than to utilize a well-maintained Porta-Potty?

This issue is exactly like the homeless issue. Larryvillains don't like the fact that there are homeless people in the city, nor the idea that homeless people disturb the finer sensibilities of the beautiful people. Therefore, Larryvillains want to legislate homelessness out of existance. Same with Porta-Potties - beautiful Larryvillains can't imagine that behind that litle plastic door, people are doing unspeakable things and therefore Porta-Potties should be legislated out of existance. And drunken Jayhawks should be legally required to wait until they get home to go potty.

whats_going_on 4 years, 11 months ago

I think what he's saying is that if we do have porta potties, they need to be cleaned and emptied on a very regular basis so that they don't become an alleyway dump.

Jaminrawk 4 years, 11 months ago

I think if they would put some "classy" marble columns outside the entrance to those toilets and maybe a harpist, we wouldn't be talking about an aesthetic issue.

whats_going_on 4 years, 11 months ago

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tanaumaga 4 years, 11 months ago

get some hand washing stations while you're at it as well

Mike Hatch 4 years, 11 months ago

People should just do what Divine did in Pink Flamingos. Just be sure and have plenty of Kleenex in your pocketbook.

Alceste 4 years, 11 months ago

EXTRA! EXTRA! EXTRA!!! READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!!:

Information has been received that state of the art toilet systems shall soon be stamped GRADE A for your use. The locations>????? Here they are:

936 Louisiana and 947 Louisiana NOW shall have the MOST PLUSH portas available. Update data shall be supplied as it is received.

Practicality 4 years, 11 months ago

Wow.

I am amazed someone hasn't posted that somehow republicans must have de-regulated toliets during the Bush years.

sherlock 4 years, 11 months ago

hey wilbur that is the answer, make those potties, pay off. put a meter on them so everyone that goes in has to pay to open the door! problem solved, cause then after every game take it away and its paid for itself! Make it so they cant get out without plugging a little meter!!!! Potty hill is in business----or perhaps Mt. Potty?//

Sure would be absolutely awful if by chance the city stopped the tail gateing in all those front yards tho ????? What the heck, open season during football! Anything goes it seems. Absurd it is! In fact this whole town has gone insane over sports, KU/highschools, jr. etc.

Richard Heckler 4 years, 11 months ago

Let's see.

The city and the neighborhood parking clubs got along without these toilets for 50 years or more.

Why are these portable toilets necessary now?

Does anyone know whether or not these outdoor toilets have reduced urinating all over the place? Sports fans must be rude...... or simply not modest.

Just think if the folks leasing these toilets would simply have them picked the day after a game our city commission would not need to consider new regulations.

Patriot2 4 years, 11 months ago

936 Louisiana and 947 Louisiana? Is this one of those potties where you have to set a world record holding your breath before your "business" is finished? Do they supply the paper products or do you have to bring your own? Or do we have to use the brush growing in the yard! As it looks right now they don't have to worry about winning any "beautify Lawrence award!" A porta potty would be an improvement. Maybe they're afraid the improvement would raise their property taxes!

independant1 4 years, 11 months ago

Not having crappers is bigger hygene problem than having the crappers. Let them rent the portable crappers. It's for one day seven times this season.

Crafting a new law for the temp placement? Maybe it's a good idea, do we need a law or ordinance for every good idea? That's a load of crap.

Patriot2 4 years, 11 months ago

If a potty is cleaned shortly after every game there shouldn't be a problem. Those potty's have latches on the doors. The people who rent them can put paddle locks on them until the next game so the neighborhood "cronies" won't be able to use them between games. The solution the commissioners may come up with, hold onto your wallets, could be taxpayer funded permanent facilities. Now wouldn't that give you all a wedgie!

independant1 4 years, 11 months ago

Ree hee hee hee hee hee hee hee lee (Jim Carey)

Carefull what you wish for.

blindrabbit 4 years, 11 months ago

What about some Binjo ditches; using the slope of the hill toward the North, everything would flow downhill toward 9th Street without the need of pumping.

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