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Cavern tavern: The Cave carves out a massive new nightclub beneath The Oread

Signs mark the various pocket bars throughout The Cave.

Signs mark the various pocket bars throughout The Cave.

December 31, 2009

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New nightspot opening in town

There's a new place to ring in the New Year in Lawrence: an underground bar at The Oread known as The Cave. Enlarge video

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New Year's Eve at The Cave

  • When: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 7 p.m. to 2 a.m.
  • Where: The Cave, 1200 Oread Avenue, Lawrence
  • Cost: $40
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Regardless of your opinion on The Oread and its impact on Kansas University or the larger Lawrence community, one aspect of the soon-to-open hotel/condo development/retail center/dining district/everything-plex on the edge of the KU campus is inarguable: it’s freaking huge.

And not just in the obvious, 11-stories-tall-plus-skyscraping-cellphone-towers kind of huge. Inside the limestone monument which is now one of Lawrence’s most prominent skyline fixtures (although Fraser Hall, just up the road on Jayhawk Blvd., still officially holds “Lawrence’s Highest Point” honors) is a vast network of interlocking hubs.

Everything is burnished with mahogany-colored marble and brass work, lending it the feel of an upscale ski resort. Restaurant bleeds into commons area, commons area bleeds into day spa, day spa bleeds into book store, book store bleeds into another restaurant, and virtually everything bleeds into a bar. All of this, mind you, is just in the lobby. Never mind the suites and apartments and ballrooms and terraces folded into the building like a Japanese puzzle box. Seriously, this place is freaking huge.

Adding to the literal depth of The Oread are four subterranean levels, dug deep into the mountain after which the behemoth is named. Unlike the rest of The Oread, which you can see from virtually any vantage point in Lawrence, this bunker is almost invisible to the outside world. Were it not for a nondescript little sign on the west side of the building, a passer-by wouldn’t even know The Cave existed.

The Cave (or “CAVE” as the sign reads) is a sprawling underground nightclub in the bowels of The Oread, and it’s quietly been open for a few weeks as the rest of the “premier multi-purpose venue” races to make its early January opening. Imagine a multi-tiered parking garage that’s been converted into the sleekest speakeasy ever, and you’ve kind of got The Cave.

“It’s a unique experience to Lawrence,” says Mike McHugh, general manager of The Cave. “Just in terms of the sheer scope and size of the bar, there’s nothing in town that can compare. From audio-visual technology all the way through bringing in specific liquors into town, it’s something Lawrence hasn’t seen before.”

One of the many pocket bars in The Cave.

One of the many pocket bars in The Cave.

Another of The Cave's bars.

Another of The Cave's bars.

Hot pocket

The Cave isn’t really one club but a series of “pocket bars” scattered throughout the four sub-levels. After entering through the side door you’re led through the actual parking garage to the entrance, adding to that speakeasy vibe. As you descend concrete stairs “Dante’s Inferno” style, you encounter a wine bar, a shot bar, a cocktail bar and finally the dance floor. All the rooms have a chic granite and stone decor that’s bathed in shimmering liquid light effects, but each is laid out to suit its particular poison and purpose. The Cave, much like The Oread at large, is attempting to cater to all patrons at once.

“We want The Oread to be a place for everybody,” says Nancy Longhurst, general manager of The Oread. “There are so many different things to do here it is its own little community. One facet we can offer to the student community, as well as the community in general, is a high-class nightclub facility.”

Above, general manager of the cave, Mike McHugh, has been overseeing the opening of the underground maze of bars beneath the Oread Hotel.

Above, general manager of the cave, Mike McHugh, has been overseeing the opening of the underground maze of bars beneath the Oread Hotel.

And high class translates to high tech. To deliver a quality clubbing experience in a bar that’s the audio engineering equivalent of a nuclear bomb shelter, heavy duty science was required.

“I developed some new math algorithms for treating sound based on fractals and quadratic diffusion that I use to control sound on the dance floor,” says Aaron Edwards, co-owner of Front Row Audio Video, which was tasked with integrating The Cave and The Oread with cutting-edge AV.

“The subs are cleaner and louder than anything you’ve ever heard. These are the highest fidelity, loudest and most efficient subwoofers made. They’re my own invention and I’m working on getting a patent on them. They can reach power levels well in excess of anything that has ever been put into a club before. We have over 26,000 watts of power in here.”

The outside signage for The Cave betrays little of the size of the club.

The outside signage for The Cave betrays little of the size of the club.

Radical change

The Oread is constantly at the ready to emphasize the possible boon it could be for the community, from its nearly 250 new jobs to its potentially benefiting KU’s recruitment efforts, but they realize they still have critics. They’re well aware complaints remain about the disruptive construction and hard feelings linger about the radical change to the neighborhood’s landscape. The hope is that maybe, just maybe, a decent addition to the Lawrence nightlife might help alleviate some of those hard feelings.

“I totally understand those feelings,” says Longhurst. “My response to that is to come in and meet us and get to know our property. Everyone is welcome here. They can eat in our restaurants, stay in our hotel, come down to The Cave. We want everyone here. Everybody that wasn’t happy with The Oread going up, we want them to be our friends and feel comfortable here at any time.”

Comments

toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

The Oread drink special:

1 oz. rum 1 oz. liquor 43 fill remainder of 8oz. highball with ice & tonic water (or plastic cups) , serve

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

Three T's (Oread owners)

drink special:

1 oz. rum 1 oz. vodka 1 oz. liquor 43

fill tall highball (or plastic cups) with orange juice, stir.

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

Agree blue73harley!

I have mentioned re-opening a club there to the owner!

it is only used as a greenroom - so i thought why not just name it

GREENROOM

TIF drinks are expensive, $11million to write off - GREENROOM has got to be less.

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blue73harley 4 years, 3 months ago

I miss the Seventh Spirit Club that was in the basement of what is now Liberty Hall.

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

TIF special

5 ingredients, stirred not shaken (five city commissioners,stirred/not shaken)

TIF 1 oz. vodka 1 oz. rum 1 oz. brandy 1 oz. peppermint schnapps 1 oz. chartreuse

pour into frosted champagne flute!

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

I wonder ---

do they have a drink special called, TIF funding?

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

quotation attributed to the late architect Phillip Johnson:

"very often it occurs that a client gets what they deserve".

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lctchr1 4 years, 3 months ago

ldvander--well said.

I miss The Crossing and Glass Onion.

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secrettoalonglife 4 years, 3 months ago

The place looks Orwellian. So they suck your brains out downstairs, and paid for with your tax dollars, how appropriate.

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Jayhawker07 4 years, 3 months ago

Soap,

You say No Service on your cell. Trust me, once they activate one of the towers you will get full service down below. No matter who is the provider is.

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ldvander 4 years, 3 months ago

Booze is great business. And I agree with beob...Im grateful for that place it WILL keep a few more sideways hat-wearin, high-fivin, loud look at me im having an important convo on my cell phone, Axe smellin college kids away from DT.

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planetwax 4 years, 3 months ago

“I totally understand those feelings,” says Longhurst.

No, it is very clear to me that you do NOT understand my feelings.

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planetwax 4 years, 3 months ago

This place represents to me what is wrong with capitalism. My heart breaks every time I see that monstrosity.

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lmn 4 years, 3 months ago

toddtrip/Sven: OCD much? You've been disappearded from ljworld more times than any of us can recall. You have worn out your welcome. Why do you think you are above the rules?

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beobachter 4 years, 3 months ago

Another student ghetto bar, difference is taxpayers are subsidizing it. But what the hell, when you have bought and paid for city commissioners you expect to get results. At least it will keep a few more college drunks off Mass.

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repaste 4 years, 3 months ago

"Just in terms of the sheer scope and size of the bar, there’s nothing in town that can compare." I don't remember this in the pre-approval hype. No cell phone is a novel twist. Anyone know the only other TIF project in town? Hint - Same developers. Plus they got an extra penny sales tax to help profits in this underserved area in need of growth.

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Richard Heckler 4 years, 3 months ago

Well, what is tax increment financing? I’ll tell you what it is.

You go to the store with your goods, you pay for it at Wal-Mart, and there’s a very good chance that that store has made a deal with the government that the sales taxes you are required to pay, that government requires you to pay, never go to the government.

Instead, those sales taxes are kept by Wal-Mart and used to pay the cost of the store. And typically in those deals, the store is tax exempt, just like a church.

Now, there are two ways that it’s important to think about this. One is, that means your kid’s schools, your police department, your library, your parks are not getting that money.

And you’ll notice we keep saying we’re starved for money. We’re twice as wealthy as we were in 1980, but we’ve got to close hospitals, and we’ve got to close schools, and we don’t have money for all sorts of things like after-school programs, even though we’re twice as wealthy.

The second thing to think about is, imagine that you own Amy Goodman’s or Juan’s department store across the street. You suddenly have to compete with people whom the government is giving a huge leg up on. You think you would go broke after a while? Well, in fact, you will."

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

The CAVE sounds kinda neanderthal - is it owned by the Flintstones or something? Maybe the first Neanderthal Star Bar, for BigLewSteins?

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

Dear JackRIpper,

they have to leave room in the garage for at least 18 spaces for the top two floors of privately owned condominium units which are about 8,000 sq. ft. per floor.

Thank You, Santa Lawrence Commissioners!

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

Do class acts throw their glasses?

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

Well isn't that special, TIF money for valet parking garages. Can we say satan! (SNL)

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kat66044 4 years, 3 months ago

Plastic cups perhaps because everything in the Cave is hard surface. Glass may be classy, but imagine the amount of broken glass in a dark crowded hard surface bar.

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

JackRipper - The parking garage is valet only (not open to the general public) even though the bars are open to the general public.

What's up with that? (SNL)

JacRipper maybe those cars that you mentioned outside were not a 'first class' business.

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

And it was $40 to get in? Nancy when you say everyone does that mean to you the people in your neighborhood?

Plastic cups, remember, Lawrence is banking on plastic cups.

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

Funny thing, those bars on multiple levels of the garage were never presented to the HRC or City Commission for review:

What's up with that? (SNL)

The Cave isn’t really one club but a series of “pocket bars” scattered throughout the four sub-levels. After entering through the side door you’re led through the actual parking garage to the entrance, adding to that speakeasy vibe. As you descend concrete stairs “Dante’s Inferno” style, you encounter a wine bar, a shot bar, a cocktail bar and finally the dance floor. All the rooms have a chic granite and stone decor that’s bathed in shimmering liquid light effects, but each is laid out to suit its particular poison and purpose. The Cave, much like The Oread at large, is attempting to cater to all patrons at once.

“We want The Oread to be a place for everybody,” says Nancy Longhurst, general manager of The Oread. “There are so many different things to do here it is its own little community. One facet we can offer to the student community, as well as the community in general, is a high-class nightclub facility.”

Question for Nancy, High Class is plastic cups & Jaeger on tap?

What's up with that? (SNL)

Hotel has 20 years to pay back the TIF funding of $11 MILLION.

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

It was interesting last night that Mississippi street was lined with cars. Was there a party somewhere or where all these cars for people going to the Cave? Also so a couple of sorority type bimbos walking in miniskirts by the parking garage in the sub cold weather that I'd assume were also Cave partiers. So is this what can be expected and when the students come back cars will be parked all over the place and drunk greeks wandering the streets? A class act?

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repaste 4 years, 3 months ago

Sounds like way around fire code - breaking up occupancy. How can they be separate when all have same owner/employees? Looks like hard core frat bar. Wonder if those subs can be heard outside of bar?

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sherbert 4 years, 3 months ago

I'd like to know what restaurants are in there, and is it true? only 200 parking spaces??

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januarygirl 4 years, 3 months ago

NO SIGN OF INTELLIGENCE HERE!!!! THIS IS A REALLY BAD IDEA AND WASTE OF MONEY. YOUNG PEOPLE NEED TO BE USING LESS ALCHOL , WHAT A POOR MESSAGE TO SEND OUT, NOT TO MENTION THE MONEY STUDENTS WILL BE SPENDING IN THIS PLACE, OR WAS THIS THE IDEA. KU YOU COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN THIS.

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Soap 4 years, 3 months ago

“The subs are cleaner and louder than anything you’ve ever heard. These are the highest fidelity, loudest and most efficient subwoofers made. They’re my own invention and I’m working on getting a patent on them. They can reach power levels well in excess of anything that has ever been put into a club before. We have over 26,000 watts of power in here.”

This is just a major LOL.. Put a EAW Avalon Series system in there or GTFOHWTBS..

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Soap 4 years, 3 months ago

It's basically like a cave..

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Soap 4 years, 3 months ago

Everything is made of rock and granite, like a giant bathroom..

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Soap 4 years, 3 months ago

Good luck meeting up with friends there.. Or calling for help.. It's like a death trap.. So many sharp corners..

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Soap 4 years, 3 months ago

It could be armageddon and the earth in flames when you walk outside at 2am, you just wouldn't know..

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Soap 4 years, 3 months ago

No cell phone service once you're inside.. At all..

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sadistnations 4 years, 3 months ago

i hope a fire starts and kills lots of lawrence cesspool scum. you all make me sick. i hope lots of people die in this club. that would make me hard and i would cuum so hard. stupid scum.

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Steve Jacob 4 years, 3 months ago

I think you are underestimating how well this hotel will do. On top of that, look up how much those cell towers can make. It will do fine.

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beobachter 4 years, 3 months ago

Think it will take that long? Probably closer to 5 or when ever tax breaks expire.

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overthemoon 4 years, 3 months ago

can't wait til its a student ghetto apartment building. what'ya say, within 10 years?

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 3 months ago

Why did they not install regurgitoriums?

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ldvander 4 years, 3 months ago

Plastic Cups. Ha, it's like The Hawk with a new hair cut and designer jeans!! Uggs in the Summer will never go out of style!

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George_Braziller 4 years, 3 months ago

I'll pass. Sounds like nothing more than a below street multi-level version of "Gammons" or "The Palladium" just polished up a bit.

At least the restrooms will probably be cleaner.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 3 months ago

"flyin_squirrel (Anonymous) says…

Marion,

Field turf is the newer version of astro turf. KU uses it on their practice fields and Memorial Stadium."

Marion writes:

Ah!; Thanks!

Does bubble gum stick as badly to Field Turf as it does to Astroturf?

Are the metal shavings completely removed from Field Turf?

Does the Field Turf manufacturer recommend that those exposed to it shower within 20 mins after leaving the field as they do with Astroturf?

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Keith 4 years, 3 months ago

Regarding the gallery pictures, nothing says upscale more than Jaeger on tap.

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Stacy Napier 4 years, 3 months ago

Hey there open. Go there tonight for a news party. Then tells us how bad it is for the city. Otherwise keep your trap shut until we see what happens.

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

Thanks for the 'infomercial' wombat!

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maxcrabb 4 years, 3 months ago

When the power runs out, we'll just hum.

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flyin_squirrel 4 years, 3 months ago

49 is the maximum occupancy for a room with only one exit. And that is the occupancy for the shot bar. The martini bar also has the same occupancy.

And fire really isn't the big safety concern of the lawrence fire department. The big concern is if something happens (like gunshots that happen in most nightclubs), that people will be trampled trying to leave. The people that died in the Rhode Island Night Club fire were trampled. Even with a multitude of exits, everybody will try to exit the way they came in. At the Rhode Island club, there was another exit that nobody even used...

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

Anyone notice the maximum occupancy sign on the door in the main picture? 49…

BRAVO for noticing 'occupancy limit'

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beobachter 4 years, 3 months ago

Why would anyone want to stay in a place that nightly houses 800 college drunks in the basement? Just what I'd want, get awakened at 2 AM by loud drunken brawls, screaming and yelling. Since there is no parking, how are these drunks getting out of there, staggering and crawling back to frat houses?

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flyin_squirrel 4 years, 3 months ago

Marion,

Field turf is the newer version of astro turf. KU uses it on their practice fields and Memorial Stadium.

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flyin_squirrel 4 years, 3 months ago

redwombat,

Smokers- The only smoking area's are on the roofs. The sub-terrain smoking bar didn't pass the fire standards. The city wanted to approve it but the Fire Dept. said no.

As for everything else the hotel offer's, you are correct it does offer a multitude of services, restaurants, bars, shops, and living arrangements but IT ONLY HAS 200 PARKING SPACES! The city just closed down the Nightclub on 9th and Iowa because they didn't have enough parking spaces to be zoned as a nightclub!

Just for the Cave occupancy alone, the Oread Inn doesn't have enough parking spaces. And now they have all these other services requiring cars. HOW DID THIS GET PASSED BY THE CITY! Another typical Good Old Boys network project done by a person with the last name of Fritzel!

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

How does a TIF project that was suppose to get an unfair advantage to compete against other hotels also get an unfair advantage to compete against other bars in town? Doesn't it bother you how much has been allowed and provided for when a small business man couldn't get anything special. That's our Lawrence, if you aren't throwing lots of money around you'll pay full price and all your taxes.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 3 months ago

"flyin_squirrel (Anonymous) says…

Not astro turf, Field Turf. There is a big difference. And yes, they didn't plant grass outside, instead used Field Turf. Think of the 90's version of the Brady Bunch's backyard. The thought was that it is easier to clean up the college kids puke at night due to the 6 bars holding over a 800 patrons. Real Upscale."

Marion writes:

So do the just hose down the "Field Turf"?

Has Astroturf been outmoded now?

Is "Field Turf" kinda like Astroturf 2.0, or what?

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redwombat 4 years, 3 months ago

I've actually been following the development of the Oread for many months now as it will have a huge impact on my own local small business. I have been in the building multiple times during its construction and perhaps can let some of you naysayers and detail people know some of the skinny.

First: Martini Bar Occupancy sign. That occupancy is for that single pocket bar alone. Since there are several different rooms that house these different bars, they each have their own occupancy.

Second: Smokers. Actually one of the bars has an open air patio specifically built to accommodate the smoking patrons. It actually has a really cool view though it is subterranean.

Third: Is this place bigger than Abe and Jakes or Lberty Hall? No, The Cave isn't. Abe and Jakes can handle over 700 people which is crazy and Liberty Hall doesn't do dance club party stuff.

Fourth: Fire Trap. Uh..the entire place is made out of concrete and marble. No carpet, no soft seating chairs, no wood. There is relatively little combustible material on site. On top of that, state of the art sprinkler systems have been installed as, of course, safety of patrons, whether they be KU students, local Lawrencians out for a pleasant evening, or visiting university dignitaries, is a priority. I mean, who would ever want to deal with that lawsuit, certainly not Fritzel & Co. And while there are relatively few entrances and exits that are used during the regular course of business, there are multiple Emergency Only exits that filter into the hotel proper and into the garage. God forbid there should ever be a catastrophe at any of Lawrence's establishments but I think they've covered this contingency.

Fifth: I'd like to note that this article spent most of its time focused on The Cave and barely recognized the multiple other offerings The Oread boasts. It's not just one big bar as you may believe. There is a spa. There are multiple conference and meeting rooms. There is a Jimmy Johns. There is a nice restaurant. There are 2 indoor ballrooms with seating capacities that no other place in Lawrence can offer. Oh, and there is a hotel with rooms that are actually going to be booked solid for years to come.

Lastly, I need to say that I have absolutely zero affiliation with the Eldridge, Oread or any of the people making the money off of this place. I drank at the Crossing and ate at YelloSub. I live within 10 blocks of the building and have only been able to see it since the leaves came off the trees. I drive into Lawrence from both 70 and K10 on a regular basis and seriously, Fraser is still the central focus of the skyline. I just think that there is potential for this place to be a good thing for the people that are seeking its services. It may not be a place that everyone in this town will visit or need to use, but for those that do, I think it will be helpful, because it really does fulfill needs.

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flyin_squirrel 4 years, 3 months ago

Not astro turf, Field Turf. There is a big difference. And yes, they didn't plant grass outside, instead used Field Turf. Think of the 90's version of the Brady Bunch's backyard. The thought was that it is easier to clean up the college kids puke at night due to the 6 bars holding over a 800 patrons. Real Upscale.

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hellsbasement 4 years, 3 months ago

why would you think the place would have astro turf?

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shepdog 4 years, 3 months ago

BA DUM DUM SISSSSSSSSS (DRUM, DRUM, CYMBAL) FOR MARION!

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rrh 4 years, 3 months ago

Looking forward to checking this place out some time; Go Hawks

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honestone 4 years, 3 months ago

Fire codes??? Did they have to worry about fire codes??? a sideline to this...where will their smokers go...in the underground garage??? Chrispy college students with JoCo mommy and daddy lawsuits

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 3 months ago

Does the place have Astroturf?

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

come on tony, do you think when the city has allowed the alcohol within so many feet of a church rule to be waived while it never allowed it for the Crossing and special tif funding in a non-blighted area to help them build it leaving enough money for them to donate it to sports fields at the high school, and the top business people in town on the commission that overlooked special footnotes on the size of the cell towers (wink, wink) that fire codes will be an issues?

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tony88 4 years, 3 months ago

laughinlarrys (Cliff Davis) says…

"Anyone notice the maximum occupancy sign on the door in the main picture? 49… "


Good observation. I would like to see the floor plans and code review. Interesting choice of number, because if the occupancy was 50 or over, it would require two exits.

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

Wow, I'm not sure I've seen anything quite this boring outside of dungeons in a medieval castles. Kind of expect the arm and leg straps along the wall for torturing people. Perhaps the building will be part of homeland security and the cia will use it for such activities. Lawrence is as good as any other third world country wanting prestige and allowing anything to get it.

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ShePrecedes 4 years, 3 months ago

Of course, another place for people to drink alcohol in Lawrence. What kind of community is this anyway? What are these places indicating to our children?

We certainly better buck up or improve programs for alcoholics.

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

excellent point flyin_squirrel! what do you expect from a town that plastic cups are its future anyway?

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flyin_squirrel 4 years, 3 months ago

Nice to see the picture of Manager Mike holding a drinking in a PLASTIC CUP. This should tell you how upscale they expect the crowd in The Cave (aka underground firetrap) to be...

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Cliff Davis 4 years, 3 months ago

Anyone notice the maximum occupancy sign on the door in the main picture? 49...

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

boring is no understatement for a building that is suppose to highlight Lawrence but really maybe it is perfect because as much money Lawrence spends trying to be like desirable cities in the midwest it constantly comes up short since it also has a neurotic side that wants to beat its big brother to the east but unfortunately hasn't figured out without speed or size it will always be a runt.

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tir 4 years, 3 months ago

"Freaking huge" is right. To me, the building looks like a gargantuan factory with "smokestacks" on top. I keep expecting to see the cell phone towers belching out black columns of smoke. Maybe it will be interesting to look at from a distance when we get a big thunderstorm next summer and the lighting starts striking repeatedly at the "smokestacks". For now, it's just big, blocky and boring, even more boring than New Fraser, aka "The Monopoly Hotel".

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dajudge 4 years, 3 months ago

Maybe free lodging for the drunks could be a draw? Have a "sleep it off" room available. And, a vomitorium.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 3 months ago

"If they really want this place to feel upscale, perhaps they could consider enforcing a code of conduct."

You mean like a three-drink minimum?

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repaste 4 years, 3 months ago

Were Nancy and hubby involved in riverfront mall city helped build? Same one that travels to sister cities on city funds?

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

Goes it is ok that a bar is subsidized with tax dollars.

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vinividivici 4 years, 3 months ago

If they really want this place to feel upscale, perhaps they could consider enforcing a code of conduct.

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Keith 4 years, 3 months ago

"They’re well aware complaints remain about the disruptive construction and hard feelings linger about the radical change to the neighborhood’s landscape. The hope is that maybe, just maybe, a decent addition to the Lawrence nightlife might help alleviate some of those hard feelings."

Because nothing's more neighborly than dumping a bunch of drunks out at 2am to loudly hoot and holler all the way to their cars.

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repaste 4 years, 3 months ago

With her own publicist! (boring job)

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toddtrip 4 years, 3 months ago

Nancy Longhurst, now bar salesperson.

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georgiahawk 4 years, 3 months ago

Snap, architects don't design the drainage, engineers do.

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ChiHawkInKS 4 years, 3 months ago

I will have to admit that I was sad when the crossing/yellow sub left... good memories. However, this place is huge. I am excited to check it out when I get a chance. Does the bar plan to cater to students after classes like The Crossing did?

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repaste 4 years, 3 months ago

As mentioned before, they are pushing hard for the Frat crowd - hiring sorority girls in bogus "pr" jobs, etc. Frat crowds can afford to pay for lots of booze! Guess there is little problem with no cell phone coverage in "caves". Little bit of a un-forseen downer - can't tell their buds where they are. Fire trap is right.

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jonas_opines 4 years, 3 months ago

“Unlike the rest of The Oread, which you can see from virtually any vantage point in Lawrence,”……

"Really? Raise your hand if you can walk out your front door and see The Oread."

Well, clearly your house is not a vantage point, then. They didn't say "any place."

vantage point: "A position that affords a broad overall view or perspective, as of a place or situation."

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SoonerNation1 4 years, 3 months ago

BARRY PENDERS......,Do you even have a date for new years eve? You are so weird ...... Have fun staring at the wall tonight while the rest of us go out and have fun

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

I still think it is pretty sweet that the school district went along with the TIF for this hotel, or will it end up being more successful as a bar, and then the developer of this project donating money to the school district anonymously for more spending on sports facilities. This town doesn't think it has a problem with its sports fascination?

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JackRipper 4 years, 3 months ago

It's pretty obvious if you have enough politicians bought off not only can you get around serving alcohol near a church but you can get TIF benefits to run a bar and hotel that competes with tax paying businesses in town. Makes sense to me. The little ol Crossing had to close at midnight and could only serve grandfathered 3.2 beer and didn't get any tax breaks.

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sunny 4 years, 3 months ago

I can't see it from my house. I don't live by campus for a reason. Those who do own homes near there should stop complaining about parking, noise, liter, and students or MOVE!

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persevering_gal 4 years, 3 months ago

"It's freaking huge."

Now that is freaking high-quality journalism.

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rtwngr 4 years, 3 months ago

sunny - These contracts always go to low bidders. Now, if they were "legal document challenged" immigrants that could be a problem. Anyway, I can't see it from my house either.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 3 months ago

Let us hope they used a real architect to plan the drainage.

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Leslie Swearingen 4 years, 3 months ago

It is a great looking building, it looks like it has been there forever. I'm not sure about the noise level. That whole area is looking a lot better than it did a few years ago.

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sunny 4 years, 3 months ago

Mexicans ..... that is what I saw doing all the construction! No local contractors put it together!

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FarneyMac 4 years, 3 months ago

I never know whether to be amused or concerned for barrypenders' obvious mental illness.

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Pogo 4 years, 3 months ago

Yee-Haw. Another bar for Lawrence. Culture at it's finest....

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barrypenders 4 years, 3 months ago

How come Barack Hussein Obama's "Stimulus" money never has been the impetus for such "creativity"? Why is it that "Government" regulations, like Barack Hussein Obama's "Stimulus" money never provides for such "creativity"? Why doesn't Agressive Progressive Articulate's provide for such "Free Market" creativity? Oh, never mind...."Free Market" is the bane of Agressive Progressive Articulates.....like Barack Hussein Obama.

Stimulus, Free Market and Posercare live unprecedented

Darwin bless you all

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consumer1 4 years, 3 months ago

Boy isn't Lawrence just special. It keeps getting more d more special every day. There will be plenty of twenty something girls gettting wasted at the martini bar all dressed up like fashion queens. any ideas???

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frankfussman 4 years, 3 months ago

I guess this monstrous building can take over the nickname of the campanile: Prick 'o the prairie.

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Steven Gaudreau 4 years, 3 months ago

Three floors underground with 600 drunk college kids. Sounds like a death trap.

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Bob_Keeshan 4 years, 3 months ago

"Unlike the rest of The Oread, which you can see from virtually any vantage point in Lawrence,"......

Really? Raise your hand if you can walk out your front door and see The Oread.

Lazy writing should be a sin punishable by loss of thumbs.

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cowboy 4 years, 3 months ago

I heard they have an elevator that goes from the shot bar up to the tenth floor to a chute that deposits them on the front lawn in a large drunken pile.

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beobachter 4 years, 3 months ago

Just what Lawrence needs, more bars. On the positive side, maybe we'll have less college drunks cluttering up the downtown area.

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tanaumaga 4 years, 3 months ago

yello sub would have been better

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Irenaku 4 years, 3 months ago

I was wondering what those big tall poles were on top of this building...cell phone towers. I would not mind checking this place out, though it sounds a bit out of my price range. I am glad to know that it is not taller than Frasier.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 3 months ago

Is this place really any bigger than Abe and Jake's or Liberty Hall?

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mmiller 4 years, 3 months ago

WOW! This is so cool. I can't wait to try this place. Lawrence is awesome. So many classy clubs, restaurants, people to meet.....love it!!!

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