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On State GOP adopts resolution demanding withdrawal from Common Core, science standards


onemansopinion 4 years, 8 months ago

RINO. Republican in name only. This is the American Taliban.

nick_s 4 years, 8 months ago

Oh jeez, here we go. 2+1=dog, humans riding dinosaurs, evolution taught w/creationism...welcome to Kansas' state of academia, 2013. We helped develop these standards, along with other states. Why even go through the process just to shun it 2 years later? Im not democrat or republican, just logical.

KSManimal 4 years, 8 months ago

"religious-based theories"

There is no such thing. There are religious-based mythologies, which of course have no place in the science curriculum.

texburgh 4 years, 8 months ago

I believe this is part of Sam Brownback's "Roadmap to illiteracy." Couple this with his cuts to K-12 schools (the largest cuts ever made) and his more recent cuts to higher education and you can see where Kansas is going.

school_board_member 4 years, 8 months ago

The problem, as it always is, is that these Republicans have never seen the standards, let alone the standards in action in the classroom. People need to get into the schools, and see what is being taught and how it is taught. Instead, they stand outside and listen to every rumor and uninformed opinion that comes along. I am beginning to wonder if Kansans care if our children are educated for the world THEY will live in!

nick_s 4 years, 8 months ago

You are absolutely correct. I recall from a previous article that a Renee Slinkard of Parker,KS (was reminded after I read the article that Mr. Brownback is also from Parker, so it all makes sense), was mentioned speaking out at a Lynn Jenkins rally against these standards. In her argument, she willfully admitted that she had no basis for her facts except that she heard them from other "concerned parents," who had found the info they were citing on the internet, but no specific websites or citings from her. After doing a quick google search, I soon found this lady had run for KS legislature & was an outspoken Tea Party affiliate. If she is a fair representative of the people speaking out against the Common Core, then we can use our deductive reasoning skills to surmise who the rest of this constituency is. Scary stuff people, wake up.

ENVIROPEACE 4 years, 8 months ago

How painful is the truth... The Kansas GOP is driving the bus into the ditch...

Tracy Rogers 4 years, 8 months ago

What the hell is wrong with these people? Do they have a clue of how much time and money has been invested in Common Core already? Do they even know what Common Core is? Have they read for themselves what it is or are they just going by rumors and word of mouth from people who don't even know what it is themselves? This is so stupid!

I used to be proud to tell people I'm from Kansas. Now? It's a complete embarrassment to admit that thanks to the clown we have who are driving this State into the ground.

chootspa 4 years, 8 months ago

"We feel we lose control over what we are allowed to teach our children here in Kansas," Arnold said.

That's right. Common Core means that you're no longer allowed to homeschool or attend private or parochial schools, and if you teach your kids supplemental things at home or take your kids to church on Sunday, you'll be arrested by the Michelle Obama thought police and be forced to drink water and run laps around the gym.

Thomas Luxem 4 years, 8 months ago

I really would like to see our education system move back to seeking and expanding knowledge instead of finding a job. Tying knowledge to economics (or religion) seems like a slippery slope to stupidity.

question4u 4 years, 8 months ago

Kansas has cut education funding to 16.5% less than it was in 2008, deeper than all but three other states over the past five years, so that wealthy business owners can pay no state income tax.

Is it any wonder that those whose economic interests are the Brownback administration's sole concern should dislike the idea of standards that will clearly show the effects of funding cuts on learning outcomes? If you don't have hard numbers to contradict you, you can always pour snake oil over the problems and in Kansas they will magically disappear. Just ask Flim-Flam Sam.

The Common Core will provide transparency and demand accountability: two things that make Sam's skin crawl. If we have those, the people of Kansas might start to think that you don't really get something for nothing after all.

Joe Hyde 4 years, 8 months ago

Republican "conservatives" working together to make ignorance a virtue.

dap0721 4 years, 8 months ago

Have they asked what the teachers think about Common Core? Just a thought....

truman1902 4 years, 8 months ago

This just in. State GOP crafting resolution switching all available digital technology to ANALOG and the arrest of ALL Federal agents (Marshals included) sent to sunflower state if they attempt to enforce otherwise. Doppler Radar also on chopping block to be replaced by WWII plane radar, deemed "good enough" for residents in twister prone locales..SWEET JESUS!

nick_s 4 years, 8 months ago

Ha ha, sounds about right good sir. Cellular communication towers are in the process of being dismantled & anyone seeking mobile communication is being directed to get a CB or HAM radio & a sweet handle to boot. We're told that these devices will be more reliable than cellular service, & there aren't so many of those dang Federal regulations. Landline communications will be upgraded (Brownbacks words) to soup cans tied together with strings. Out of the goodness of their hearts, the administration is in the process of obtaining an abacus for every school aged child in place of a calculator, but they will still be manufactured by Texas Instruments, because we like the way the name looks on the abacus.

Stuart Sweeney 4 years, 8 months ago

Maybe we could just get it over with and get back to witchcraft and voodoo arts in our schools. That seems to be where this bunch of knotheads want to take us. They did not ask me if I thought common core would obliterate local control. Where do they honestly come up with the majority of people who believe this--at meetings with 100 percent of their kind in attendance?

NotImpressed 4 years, 8 months ago

bring out the leaches for the daily blood-letting to get rid of the bad humors!

hedshrinker 4 years, 8 months ago

uh, that's pretty much what the composition of the state legislature is, with a few notable exceptions ( meetings with 100 percent of their kind in attendance, that is @osur351).

Richard Brown 4 years, 8 months ago

The Common Core has nothing at all to do with the federal government. They were sponsored by a large consortium of state governors and drawn up by educators. Any supposed link to the Feds is the result of either misinformation or bald faced lies.

Glenn Reed 4 years, 8 months ago

State GOP Chair Kelly Arnold said today there is "a groundswell of people" who are opposing Common Core standards for reading and math, which are going into effect in Kansas and 44 other states.

--This is an accurate statement. The problem is the level of knowledge the "groundswell of people in opposition" possess. Which is right around zero, maybe less than that when you average everything out.

"We feel we lose control over what we are allowed to teach our children here in Kansas," Arnold said.

--No, the states are losing no control regarding the issue of education funding or standards.

...represents "an unconstitutional and illegal transfer of power to the federal government and unaccountable private interests." A number of tea-party affiliated groups have targeted Common Core.

--Since when does the GOP have an issue with unconstitutional transfers of power to unaccountable private interests? Heck, even if Common Core were to be adopted or used as a template for state education standards, little to stop these idiots in Topeka from giving your local pizza shack money to start a private school.

oldexbeat 4 years, 8 months ago

remind them that gravity is just a theory. We don't know how it works. Might be little unseeable people pulling us together. Perhaps invisible flying pigs ? Just saying.

grimpeur 4 years, 8 months ago

The less you know, the more you believe what Arnold is saying.

This is not a fed v. state issue. If you cannot or (in keeping with the apparently deliberate bumpkin act) will not understand this fundamental fact, then you're just the voter that the KS Republican Party is counting on!

The question we should be asking is: do Arnold and the rest of these backward pups really believe what's not true, or are they lying in order to curry favor with the ignorant?

Oh, and...irony. The resolution has it.

repaste 4 years, 8 months ago

The earth is probably not flat. Dinosaur bones probably come from dinosaurs. These standard standards were not created by the Fed's. They might help my kids get a good education.

William Weissbeck 4 years, 8 months ago

This would all make sense if this group met behind one of the glass diorama displays at Dyche. Then a sign in front which read "Neanderthals gather around a fire," would make perfect sense. What next, a resolution that demands opposition to the boogeyman (or bogeyman)? It is really incumbent on Kansas PUBLIC schools to teach our children well. They won't be sticking around and need to be prepared for what lies beyond the borders. If the private schools want to teach the medical theory of humors and the Ptolemaic map of the Universe, so be it.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 4 years, 8 months ago

This just another ploy for the Kansas republicns to bypass the separation of church and state. Republicans rely on hokey religion for their very existance, keeping the electorate flummoxed with religious hokum and imaginary dieties. Our governer is a prime example of this practice. It is their stock in trade. No one knows the true nature of the real Power of the Universe. All religion is fantasy and imagination. Nothing is subject to proof. It works well for the party that is trying to keep their agenda fresh in the face of plain facts and reality.

yourworstnightmare 4 years, 8 months ago

More evidence that the Kansas legislature is now dominated by the black helicopter crowd.

Ignorant and anti-education at best, willfully ignorant and undermining education at worst.

tomatogrower 4 years, 8 months ago

The extremist who are now in control of the legislature, first started by running for the State Board of Education. When they made the news about teaching creationism in school, many people woke up to what happened and voted them out at the primary and at the general election. We need to keep this issue alive to show how totally ignorant these people are. Hopefully this will wake people up.

Steve Sharp 4 years, 8 months ago

I am embarrassed to say I am from Kansas. There is now a stigma that is attached to anyone from here or living here presently. The stigma is that you're stupid, ignorant, intolerant, a racist or a fanatical bible thumper which is equivalent to Koran thumpers, aka the Taliban.

George Lippencott 4 years, 8 months ago

I find it increasingly difficult to fathom the focus of the GOP in Kansas. Exactly what is wrong with the common core standards? They are not federal. They rightfully confine science to fact or scientifically derived theory. I feel no loss of local control. In fact I find this effort most encouraging.

By the by, as a military dependent I attended school in many states each of which had their own standards. In consequence I was required to repeat or undertake a fair number of courses not required in my previous schools. With a common core across many states hopefully that challenge will be minimized not just for the millions of military dependents but for the millions of children of commercial employees transferred each year.

It seems to me that there are many more meaningful issues that we might address instead of creating an issue where there is none.

chootspa 4 years, 8 months ago

The drive to remove Common Core standards is almost exclusively coming from tea party groups, libertarian think tanks, and conservative church groups. Whenever I see lists of groups supporting the site, it's something like the Utahns against CC site that lists Heritage, CATO, Freedom Works, Heartland Institute, some county's 9/12 group, a homeschooling group, liberty this, patriots that, etc.

None of those groups actually supports strong public education, so why are they so concerned about the evils of Common Core? Because it might lead to strong public education, mmm? Best I can tell, there are actually two real reasons they don't like it:

a) Strong public schools with high standards mean it's harder to shove through school voucher legislation, and it might also mean people fight harder to keep public schools funded.

b) Strong, common science standards mean it's harder to sneak religion into local school curriculum standards. That's the whole issue with "local control."

jafs 4 years, 8 months ago

Nice post.

Having a consistent education from state to state is exactly why we want consistent standards for education.

lucky_guy 4 years, 8 months ago

Stupid is as stupid does.....Forrest Gump

George Lippencott 4 years, 8 months ago

Maybe they are not supportive of the GOP on this issue?

Thomas Bryce Jr. 4 years, 8 months ago

I am willing to bet that a good Education is very important to all of the Residents of Kansas. More so than Governor Brownback and The Kansas Legislature realize.

George Lippencott 4 years, 8 months ago

I suspect you are right. Even Republicans have children they love and for whom they want the best

Lisa Medsker 4 years, 8 months ago

That's the problem... Most of them seem to think that religion in the public school Science class IS the "best".

Richard Heckler 4 years, 8 months ago

Put ALEC out of business. Vote out republicans.

American Legislative Exchange Council, known as ALEC. Critics say the Washington-based organization plays a key role in helping corporations secretly draft model pro-business legislation that has been used by state lawmakers across the country.

Unlike many other organizations, ALEC’s membership includes both state lawmakers and corporate executives who gather behind closed doors to discuss and vote on model legislation.

ALEC has come under increased scrutiny for its role in drafting bills to:

--- attack workers’ rights

--- roll back environmental regulations

--- privatize education

--- deregulate major industries

--- passing voter ID laws.

Democracy and citizens kicked out the back door.

Richard Heckler 4 years, 8 months ago


Today, hundreds of state legislators from across the nation will head out to an "island" resort on the coast of Florida to a unique "education academy" sponsored by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). There will be no students or teachers. Instead, legislators, representatives from right-wing think tanks and for-profit education corporations will meet behind closed doors to channel their inner Milton Friedman and promote the radical transformation of the American education system into a private, for-profit enterprise.

What is ALEC Scoring on Its Education "Report Card?" Little is known about the agenda of the ALEC education meeting taking place at the Ritz Carlton on Amelia Island. The meeting is not open to the public and recently even the press has been kicked out of meetings and barred from attendance. So to understand the ALEC agenda with regard to education, it is important to examine ALEC's education "scorecard."

Imagine getting a report card from your teacher and finding out that you were graded not on how well you understood the course material or scored on the tests and assignments, but rather on to what extent you agreed with your teacher's strange public policy positions. That is the best way to understand the American Legislative Exchange Council's 17th Report Card on American Education released last week.


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