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If spending $1 billion on advertising is "free speech" and burning the flag is "freedom of expression" then maybe shooting fireworks on the Fourth of July is also protected by the first amendment. Don't plead the fifth, Matt. Plead the first!
But where? Not everyone has access to private land outside the city.
Most people do not have access to private land outside the city limits.
Let's, for once, do something as a community and get a petition signed to force a referendum on this issue. I suspect that if the ban was brought to a vote that the "same sex marriage" crowd would turn out in force and uphold it. At least it would be fun to try. Anyone else interested?
I've vote rescind the fireworks laws...just moved back into town after 19 years away, and I was surprised most fireworks were now banned.
It is called Freedom. What harm is he doing?
He's infringing on my right to peace and quiet in my own home.
Its about time. These guys just flaunt the law, especially in front of children.
If you'se cant to the time, dont's do the crime
Wow! What a guy! Look at the lesson he is teaching his children . What other laws does he ignore because he doesn't like them? His behavior is an example of disregard for others and the law. How about he works to have the ban revoked and until then do like the rest of us do, and respect the law and find an alternative way to celebrate. McManis needs to grow- up and quit acting like a spoiled child.
And, he's probably raising spoiled children who will never have any respect for the law. Wonder how his wife feels...I can't imagine the embarrassment.
Agree. You admit guilt so man up and pay the fine.
How ironic, the fellow was given a ticket on the 4th breaking a stupid freedom sucking law.....kinda like our forefathers. Yep, if it weren't for folks like McManis we'd be taking tea at three, and honoring the queen.
Some how I think the likes of John Adams would consider this person an uncouth idiot who failed to respect his neighbors' rights.
I am going to use the McManis defense, the next time my dog, is off leash and caught. Fideaux off leash is my expreession of freedom, my celebration with my 165 lb Saint Bernard of Bastille Day tomorrow.
The City Commission made a rational decision banning fireworks. Some people who served in the military don't like explosive noises on the Fourth (or any other day). Reminds them too much of a bad time in their lives. The Commission had complaint of fireworks beginning before 6 am and lasting well into the fifth of July. There were those Darwin awards that went to those who set off fireworks and wound up setting their roof (or their neighbor's roof on Bluestem Court) on fire.
And why should police and fire resources have to be committed to protecting Bluestem Court homes to the exclusion of others because of Mr. McManis' criminal act?
It is too bad Judge Miller can't sentence him to wear the back end of horse's costume until Halloween.
Matt hold your ground. You are simply following in the footsteps of our great fore fathers. You are the Rosa Parks of fireworks.
Seriously, the Rosa Parks of fireworks. Equality and the right to shoot fireworks are hardly to be compared
I thought the police simply look the other way on the Fourth, which is as it should be, unless something particularly dangerous or inconsiderate is going on. People can live with the noise for one day out of the year.
I'd be okay with some selective enforcement on the Fourth if there was a little more control around the Fouth. In my neighborhood, people were shooting them off from the first (happy Canada Day??) till they ran out on the seventh.
Because they look the other way, because they only cite 4 times (!!!! unbelievable) is why no one bothers to obey the law. If it was enforced, people would think twice before they put their own pleasure above the law.
Can't address the first question, but I'll bet the answer to the second one is that he sought out the attention. My guess is that he is probably pretty arrogant. The others are probably too ashamed to come forward and admit their crimes.
So he broke the law (albeit a stupid one), admits to breaking the law, but doesn't want to be penalized for breaking the law? Mmmmkkkkayyy
I spent six nights not getting to sleep until 1:30 AM to 2:30 AM due to the lack of respect of people. The "fireworks" that were set off were not the fireworks you could buy at the local stands. One night I had to get up and go out and check on our cars because they were shooting fireworks right next to them. That was at 11:30 on Sunday after the 4th. You can't tell me that officers patrolling the local neighbors cannot hear these loud explosions. If we have a law, we should enforce it. I understand that there might be priority calls but it is like this law is totally ignored by citizens and police officers. The gentleman that received the ticket should think about others that may not be in his "neighborhood". We can still hear the fireworks. Some of us have to work and not being able to sleep is really a problem during the 4th of July season. Have some respect for others.
DITTO-- people who work, people who have PTSD, nervous cats and dogs, people who just don't like to listen to endless sounds of pop pop and the irritation of worrying about where all those firecrackers are landing, well we are just out of luck. The police don't give a damn because half of them probably go home and set off their own fireworks. Until the city actually ENFORCES this ban, it'll just get worse and worse every year. At this point calling to complain is just a joke. 200 complaints and FOUR citations is appalling.
If you don't like the law work the legal way to have it abolished. This isn't worth an LJW story.
Here's a thought. Instead of shooting off fireworks to celebrate our freedom, how about going to a Veteran's hospital (or nursing home) to thank them for their service. Show the children what others have given for their freedom. They could make thank you cards for the Veterans. Lawrence used to have a festival with activities for the kids showing what life was like back then. How about a 4th of July parade? I'm willing to bet the reason most of the people are shooting off fireworks has nothing at all to do with freedom. When the city banned fireworks they should have had alternative activities planned. It's like taking a toy away from a child and saying they can't play with it and setting it where they can still get it. You usually give them something else to play with. Just a thought.
I totally agree with you WorkingHard....
I am going to hedge a bet that the police were called to this area by a citizen and when asked to stop shooting off the fireworks, McManis developed an attitude to impress his children and neighbors, hence...no respect for the law or police enforcing said law, here is your ticket sir!!!
Since McManis has not been found guilty yet, albeit I bet the prosecution would love to introduce his Journal World comments into evidence, I would encourage the Journal World to block out his address on the citation.
Veteran's Day is different than independence day. Independence day celebrates our freedom from British control by emulating "the rockets red glare".
"the rockets' red glare" comes from a song about a battle in the War of 1812, not from the American Revolution. The War of 1812 was over British trade restrictions and America's desire to take Canada from Great Britain. Had nothing to do with our independence!
Some of us can do both. Ask somebody at a nursing home if they wish to leave a watch fireworks, you'd be surprised by the answer. Also the memories of o so many past 4th celebrations.
Will you please stop using civil rights leaders to compare to this insignificant story !!
This story is to freedom what mountains are to molehills.
Yes, this is one big government conspiracy to take away our freedoms. Force us to wear seat belts, limit our usage of noisy, dangerous products to outside urban areas. Next thing you know, we won't have the freedom to inject heroin, smoke crack cocaine or drive 100 MPH whenever we feel like it.
I'll bet George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are rolling in their graves, which are up on a hill with a nice view of the unmarked slave grave down below.
You say you don't want a nanny state. Until you really need one. You say no one will be hurt if you don't wear a seat belt, unless of course, your injuries exceed your insurance coverage, in which case the nanny state will wind up picking up the cost of your care. And a serious head injury will do just that, so since you're putting the nanny state at risk, the nanny state has a right to limit it's risk by requiring you to wear your seat belt. The same is true with your use of drugs. The nanny state will provide services for you when the negative consequences of said use exceeds your individual ability to deal with them. So again, the nanny state has a right to limit it's exposure.
As for fireworks, your argument would have more merit if the loud noise fireworks produce didn't invade the privacy of people sitting in the privacy of their homes. There seems to be ample evidence that it disturbs the residents as well as their pets. The analogy you used elsewhere in this thread that your freedom ends when your fist strikes another's nose. Well, the sound is doing just that and it's clear it disturbs people trying to enjoy the privacy of their own homes. Invent fireworks that are quiet and you might be on to something.
You consider it a "freedom" to discharge explosives that have the ability to destroy a neighbor's property? Is it also a freedom to break into the police station to free prisoners and steal weapons on Bastille Day?
Yes, we need to have an Unjust Law Day. That way each and everyone of us can pick a law we see as unnecessary or unjust and disobey it. Good idea, angelus.
Fireworks are a huge money making venture. How in the world are fireworks in any way attached to Freedom?
What are we celebrating? Law enforcement spying on Americans? Lying politicians at all levels .... city,state and federal levels? Women losing their rights to politicians? Reckless spent tax dollars?
The Patriot Act that has nothing top do with patriotism?
Koch,Brownback,Wal-Mart Money and their supporters declaring war on wages and public education?
Who are we kidding?
If we are going to enforce the law, the make it illegal to purchase fireworks of any kind. Easy enough to police.
"I have respect for the law. Yes, I broke the law. If I have to pay a $200 fine, I'll pay the $200 fine."
If he DID have respect for the law he wouldn't have been shooting off fireworks within city limits.
I agree totally with you oxymoron. If the City has a law that bans fireworks, then why, why, why does the COUNTY let stands set up right outside the borders???? Hello City/County Governments. This is the most stupid thing I have seen lately by these two governing bodies. But really not much makes sense when these bodies are involved. Why just 4??? The judge should dismiss all 4, and set an example to the City on this issue.
P.S. I do not shoot off fireworks, did not buy any, never do. Got burned on 15th street when I was 9 by fireworks, never liked shooting them after that episode. And my dogs hate them anyway. So I respect their views.
While the County of Douglas and the City of Lawrence are different on many levels, they do hold one profound commonality--neither has Jack in the Box.
I am not a fireworks buyer anymore, but I really aint agin em,
but if some one was shooting off stuff that was hitting my car and house
I might become a low life rat and call the police
This is not the American Revolution, it is not a case of race segregation, it is not an equal rights march. This is one guy, who doesn't like a law and decided he was not going to obey it. Not every act of civil disobedience is a good thing. The law is a good law for public safety and the common good of the community. There are people who believe every law is an affront to their personal freedom. I believe that is called anarchy.
Well that's silly. The implication of "my right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins" sort of implies that swinging your fist at my nose, therefore, is rightfully unlawful. If you swing at my nose but miss, that doesn't mean you didn't try to hit my nose, which is why we can be charged with "attempted" crimes -- attempted assault in this case.
Fireworks (most fireworks) are illegal within city limits because there is a concentration of homes and other property. The county has different rules -- whether good or bad -- that apply to the differing circumstances of living outside of a densely populated area.
The laws are in place specifically FOR the "my right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins" reason. The city is using laws to prevent accidents rather than citing folks after damage has been done. Just as if you swing your fist and hit my nose you should be charged with battery rather than random fist swinging, if you burn my house down with a bottle rocket you should be charged with burning my house down rather than littering.
You can't shoot guns willy nilly on the street because you might hit someone.
You can't drive 70 mph through a school zone because you might run over someone.
This isn't anyone taking away freedom. These are laws that allow us to live together in a civilized manner. Let's try to get it together folks. We did a lot of crazy things way back when that we don't do anymore. Think of it as civic evolution.
He might have been a little more considerate of his neighbors who, according to the story, called the police when the fireworks were landing on their vehicle and property. No one has the right to cause harm to another person.
Here's an idea then...
Instead of making a law against fireworks, lets make a law against littering and a law against destruction of property. That way, the police can ticket him for the actual harm he does and people who use their fireworks in a safe and considerate manner can continue to.
Oh, wait! You mean we already have laws against those things?
All together now! (To the tune of You're A Grand Old Flag):
Me, me, me, me, me,
Me, me, me, me, me, me,
And to heck with the neighbors around me!
I'm the center of
The world I love.
I define what the holiday means.
And my heart beats true
to my right to peeve you.
I have always a boast and brag.
Let all my neighbors be forgot,
Keep an eye on my right to rule!
was the neighbor not invited to the party,?? why not,? was his car on his drive way
or did he park it in the street for the fun of it. I would still have a problem it stuff was
falling on my car and house, but it looks like a pretty close neighborhood,
what is the rest of the story ??
Please give us all a break. Charcoal grills cause way more fires than fireworks. Shall we ban them? Smoking accidents cause way more fires than fireworks. Shall we ban them? This entire ban is about a group of politicians that want to keep their finger on the citizens of Lawrence. Bring it to a public vote and let the majority decide. Then enforce whatever the outcome is.
Actually, there is a city code regarding charcoal grills. It bans them on apartment balconies and states how far from a building the grill needs to be located. Most of those fires you're referring to were caused by tenants ignorant of that code and/or those who dismissed the landlord's lease regarding grills.
I happen to think then ban is crap! IT IS AMERICA PEOPLE! The person setting them off is responsible for what may happen But, to give them a fine? STUPID. LPD needs to go after criminals, not someone shooting off some fireworks!
Shooting off fireworks in Lawrence is illegal. That is why Mr. Mantis was given a citation. It appears from the story he is going to represent himself. "He who represents himself has a fool for a client" - A. Lincoln
A friend who works in the ER at LMH told me they had treated between 20 and 30 people,mostly kids, for firework related injuries the night of the 4th. Why weren't those people ticketed, or their parents.
LOL, celebrating the American 4th of July with Chinese made fireworks. Does anyone else see the irony in this?
Well, the Chinese did invent fireworks so it only seems fitting. Error 404, irony not found.
And many things invented in America and now made in China. Seems fitting that things invented in America should be made in America then.
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