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Rick Aldrich 7 months, 1 week ago

A slow drip injection would cure that look.

kernal 7 months, 1 week ago

Is that a bullet proof vest the accused is wearing underneath his jail shirt?

Leslie Swearingen 7 months, 1 week ago

I think he looks as though he is deleberately shutting down all emotions, because he doesn't want to feel anything. But, looks can be very deceiving so, of course, this is just a guess on my part. Surely, something led to him deciding to kill those people, something very extreme for him to do such a thing. What did he hope to gain from it? What act provoked that final response? That's what I would like to know.

Does he deserve the death penalty? According to the Catholic Catechism he does because he murdered and because one was really still a baby. This is just one instance of where the Catechism says that the death penalty is appropriate and moral. There are several.

My heart goes out to both the families and to the officers who exhausted themselves physically and emotionally to solve this case and bring some sort of closure. Police officers must repress feelings while on the job and in court, but they still have them. It is a very needed but sometimes very hurtful job.

Deb Engstrom 7 months, 1 week ago

He probably doesn't have the ability to feel guilt, shame, responsibility and empathy. That's part of mental illness. In some skewed reality, he believes his actions are justified. Because he was identified as having mental illness during his previous trial, they probably won't win a death penalty sentence but with 4 counts of 1st degree murder, he probably won't ever get out.

otto 7 months, 1 week ago

Is just being too dumb to know any better a mental illness or just lack of mental ability?

jonas_opines 7 months, 1 week ago

Has nothing to do with intelligence. If your brain doesn't fire properly to allow you to feel certain emotions, then social mores and social norms are going to mean very little.

From wiki: The World Health Organization's International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems, tenth edition (ICD-10), defines a conceptually similar disorder to antisocial personality disorder called (F60.2) Dissocial personality disorder.

It is characterized by at least 3 of the following:

Callous unconcern for the feelings of others;

Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations;

Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them;

Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence;

Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment;

Marked readiness to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society.

There may be persistent irritability as an associated feature.

The diagnosis includes what may be referred to as amoral, antisocial, psychopathic, or sociopathic personality (disorder.)

The criteria specifically rule out conduct disorders. Dissocial personality disorder criteria differ from those for antisocial personality disorders.

It is a requirement of ICD-10 that a diagnosis of any specific personality disorder also satisfies a set of general personality disorder criteria.

patkindle 7 months, 1 week ago

he is just another sicko doper,

juma 7 months, 1 week ago

Bad seed! Remove from crop.

ottawaway 7 months, 1 week ago

Text messages released in Ottawa quadruple homicide case http://www.kansascity.com/2013/05/13/4233365/flack-waives-15-day-preliminary.html

Another person from Ottawa reported to have stayed at this farm, Dillon Leach (his name is misspelled in this article) is very mentally unstable & was rumored to have been with Flack when he was found. He has been incarcerated 3 times for aggravated battery with Kansas Dept. of Corrections. This guy has no had no problem over the years trying to beat people to death. http://www.kctv5.com/story/22186576/authorities-in-kansas-seek-2-men-in-connection-with-triple-slaying

catfishturkeyhunter 7 months, 1 week ago

I do not take the death penalty lightly. Normally I am against it. However, Flack knew right and wrong, and considering his past, I say put him to sleep and that's me being generous. Not only has he emotionally wrecked the lives of several families, he just cost them all about 60 thousand dollars in combined funeral expenses ruining them financially as well. I honestly think the financial burden of laying these victims to rest and payment of punitive damages should fall on the state of Kansas. The judgment, sentencing and early release of Flack in 2005 was a complete failure in every sense of the word. He should have done no less than a mandatory 20 to 30 years on his first go around. Its outright stupid, and moronic to negotiate plea deals with violent offenders, especially ones charged with shooting a human being multiple times. The whole deal is sad because it didn't have to happen and it shouldn't have happened. I don't know how the judge or district attorney for his case in 2005 can even get a decent nights sleep after all this. The whole thing just stinks to high heaven.

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