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On Opinion: Panic diverts attention from real threats


Jason Johnson 5 years, 1 month ago

They haven't confiscated the plans, per se, just trying to block it. But the plans are out there - the genie has been let out of the bottle, and it will never be stopped.

jonas_opines 5 years, 1 month ago

More accurate headline would have been: "What's worthy of true panic is highly dependent upon your point of view."

Jason Johnson 5 years, 1 month ago

I don't know why every is having a cow - you can build a (9mm) zip gun for less than $5 from parts bought at a hardware store...

I guess people don't like the printable ones because they're plastic? The printed one in the video had a metal firing pin, so it's still detectable.

Paying $2000 for a printer that prints a marginal gun vs $5 for a metal zip gun? I'll take the zip gun.

Now maybe technology will progress where it gets cheaper and better. But right now printable guns are still out of the realm for most people.

verity 5 years, 1 month ago

Can't remember where I read this, but after this announcement a reporter set out to acquire a 3-D printed gun. Short version of a very long story, the cost was prohibitive to buy your own printer, having one printed commercially was expensive and nobody who does 3-D printing would do it for him---legal questions, etc.

And they apparently are only good for one firing.

Not going to have a panic attack about this.

jack22 5 years, 1 month ago

Verity, you make some very good points. Just how much do 3-D printers cost? I'm guessing somewhere in the range of a good used car? Anyway, I think you're right, besides the high cost of the printer, no business that owns one is going to want to expose themselves to the liability of manufacturing a plastic gun unless they had a very big order to fill. And a plastic gun that's only good for one firing doesn't sound very practical to me. I can't imagine there would be a big enough market for them that we'll see a company start to make them anytime soon.

verity 5 years, 1 month ago

I can't find the original article I referenced amid all the doom and damnation articles online, but I also seem to remember that the printing was going to take eight hours despite the hysterical "Downloading a gun's design plans to your computer, building it on a three-dimensional printer and firing it minutes later." That from AP.

This from the same article: " Low-end 3-D printers can now be purchased online from between $1,500-$4,000. The more high-end printers needed to make gun parts are still priced from $10,000 and up."

Another article: "printed guns will make it more difficult to distinguish what’s a real gun and what’s not. That means we’ll probably be seeing more dangerous holdups and crimes with real or realistic-looking guns, . . ."

The photo of the plastic 3-D gun I saw didn't look remotely like any gun I've ever seen and there are a lot of toy guns that look real, so that's hardly a big concern.

Just wish I could find the original article amongst all the hysteria. And this from someone who has a large aversion to guns---don't see this as a problem anytime soon.

Leslie Swearingen 5 years, 1 month ago

The problem would be someone buying the printer from Amazon at two thousand and only needing it for one shot, which is all it takes to kill someone. But, I can't figure out why some one would need a plastic gun when they could buy a metal one a lot cheaper. Don't forget that you need the blueprints, the right kind of plastic and the know how to put it all together. What about the bullet it fires? Would that also be detected? In addition to the nail used to fire it?

I would think that paranoid needs to be redefined considering the reality of possible death in places never imagined as dangerous just a short time ago.

Leslie Swearingen 5 years, 1 month ago

The plastic gun in question that fires a single shot is untraceable, undetectable and accessible to any felon has turned the gun debate upside down. A hard-plastic firearm called “The Liberator” is the world’s first entirely printed 3D gun. It fires standard .380-caliber bullets.

Wilson told Leitner he has been ordered to remove the gun blueprints from his website. And to take down the files for nine other 3D-printable firearm parts, which include silencers, sights and magazine.


Example of a 3-D Printer, available on Amazon.

Example of a 3-D Printer, available on Amazon. by Frankie8

Jason Johnson 5 years, 1 month ago

Unless they've changed the CAD file, it's not 100% plastic. There's still a metal firing pin.

Liberty275 5 years, 1 month ago

"On Friday, the federal government ordered Wilson to remove the blueprints from his website."

That is a blatant violation of Defense Distributed's first amendment rights. Worse yet it is pointless. 100,000 copies out the window, and ythey make him stop. That's just dumb.

The cat is out of the bag. What will the smart fellows in Washinngton do to protect us now? Will they have the courage to ban 3d printers? How many people will have to die before we require background checks on anyone wanting to own or use a 3d printer?

It never ends until you make it stop.

Leslie Swearingen 5 years, 1 month ago

Ah, but hospitals use 3D printers to make precise copies of an individuals body part, say an heart, so that surgeons can practice on it before they do surgery. Everyone's organs are different that the ones that have been used before this to teach. This way the surgeon knows before cutting what they are going to encounter and they have a plan for it.

As you might guess these printers are extremely pricey as are the machines used to get the images used for the blueprints. We could see this used also in created replacement organs for transplants. How about artificial limbs? Lots of very good ways these printers can be used.

verity 5 years, 1 month ago

I found the article written by the reporter who tried to get a 3-D gun printed, but was too late to edit my comment above.


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