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The AG's Office was probably "less persuasive" than the Kansas Medical Society because they didn't bring in paid lobbiers and have money to donate to re-election campaigns. It apparently didn't even matter that the AG is the same party as the __ that brought the bill forward. And the fact that the AG Office (well AAG Klebe) estimated how much money it will cost to defend this "law". I guess the State has lots of spare money around to pay outside law firms - just not to help the ordinary citizen.
Yep, the marching orders for this measure likely come from ALEC and/or the firearms industry's main lobbying organization, the NRA.
Funny how the Constitution gets held up as a rallying cry when it serves their purpose, but completely ignored when it doesn't. I doubt most of these guys have even read it.
Inane is exactly right. This is what happens when poorly educated people are elected to legislatures.
Mabe keeping guns in Kansas will start revolution agaijnst our corrupt government.
Why is it that prohibitionists think firearms that never leave the state are part of interstate commerce?
Pharmaceutical medicines that never leave the state are still regulated by the FDA, and rightly so. For similar reasons. Prohibiting enforcement of federal gun laws is as stupid as prohibiting enforcement of federal food and drug regulations, and as dangerous to the population.
Follow the money, folks, and it will lead directly from the NRA/ALEC to the legislators' war chests.
If these people ever have an original thought, it will be a red-letter day. Til then, be ready for anything that is anti-Constitution.
No doubt we have gone through the Looking Glass, but please don't equate Gov Brownback with Alice. I won't have Alice insulted like that. I just won't have it!
Hey, folks, this is seriously crazy legislation--check it out here:
and tell me if you think it'll make you feel more secure in your compound--I mean home, school or place of work. Maybe this is an arm of Brownback's economic strategy for economic development: a no-holds-barred, in-state firearms and accessories manufacturing industry to place an M-16 in every pot! It's time for folks to get off their duffs and contact their legislators or else:
Language from the bill:
"The tenth amendment to the constitution of the United States
guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the
federal government elsewhere in the constitution and reserves to the state
and people of Kansas certain powers as they were understood at the time
that Kansas was admitted to statehood in 1861. The guaranty of those
powers is a matter of contract between the state and people of Kansas and
the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States
was agreed upon and adopted by Kansas in 1859 and the United States in
OK, so if the state of Kansas decides to make a law allowing slavery or poll taxes, or alternatively prohibits women from voting, prohibits collection of income taxes or takes away due process, it's OK because none of those were in the US Constitution at the time of our original contract for statehood in 1859???
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...continued language from the legislation:
"Firearms accessories that are imported into Kansas from another state and that are subject to federal regulation as being in interstate commerce do not subject a firearm to federal regulation under interstate commerce because they are attached to or used in conjunction with a firearm in Kansas".
"Sec. 5. A firearm manufactured in Kansas within the meaning of
sections 1 through 11, and amendments thereto, must have the words
"Made in Kansas" clearly stamped on a central metallic part, such as the
receiver or frame."
"Sec. 6. (a) Any act, law, treaty, order, rule or regulation of the
government of the United States which violates the second amendment to
the constitution of the United States is null, void and unenforceable in the
state of Kansas."
"(b) No official, agent or employee of the state of Kansas, nor any
dealer selling any firearm in the state of Kansas, shall enforce or attempt to
enforce any act, law, treaty, order, rule or regulation of the government of
the United States regarding any personal firearm, firearm accessory or
ammunition that is owned or manufactured commercially or privately in
the state of Kansas and that remains within the borders of Kansas."
Meth manufacturers, scoot over: "made in Kansas" is about to take on a whole new meaning.
I do not think this bill will accomplish anything, other than waste legislators time. Federal law usually takes precedence over state law in matters like this. I would much rather the legislature work on another firearms bill that enables us to carry in buildings without any in place security. It is up to each of us then to be responsible for our own protection, which we are anyway. As it now stands buildings with no gun signs leaves us as vulnerable as gun free zone signs on schools leave them vulnerable. Many mass shootings at schools demonstrate that the liberals gun free zones do exactly the opposite as intended. They insure that killers will likely face no armed resistance there. Every time I go into a no gun building, such as doctor's offices, hospitals, I feel vulnerable as some nut case will see this as an open hunting ground. I do not patronize stores, etc. with no gun signs, but I must go to the doctor. If these buildings do not have measures in place to protect me, they should not deprive me of the right to protect myself.
Don't go anywhere then, you're too paranoid to be in public.
board your house up and find a dark corner if the world scares you that much, because there are enough paranoid crazies walking around with guns waiting to shoot at a moments notice. If I don't want guns in my store I have a right to keep people from entering that are carrying them, if you don't like it don't enter that building.
As is your right. And I have the right not to spend money in your store. See, it works out.
How do you propose to stop them? A little sign? lol
what is it in our water or air that we end up, in the 21st century, writing about 'no armed resistance at schools' as a rational sentence.? We are truly dangerous and crazy and shouldn't be allowed into other countries. Sorry.
What have we come to as a society that we feel we need armed guards everywhere. Have we as a country lost so much of our back bones that we can no longer deal with people so we feel the need to carry around a gun to protect ourselves from all that is around us. Can people no longer talk to one another and work issues out, identify people in need around them, or care enough to look out for each other. This paranoid mindset is a new thing, yes people have always had guns but they are so common place now and lives are taken with no remorse.
Having a gun seems to make some people feel powerful and invulnerable. Any number of people also seem to have a fascination with guns and ammunition bordering on the obsessive. This is the trait that I find most worrisome about the "gun enthusiasts," along with the assertion that "I would have blown the person away if I were in that situation." One sometimes gets the feeling that some are just hoping for a chance to do that. I certainly hope I am wrong.
A pretty milquetoast and smug word to be using -- you're sure you don't mean insane?
This bill suggests that this crop is practically dumb enough to vote for secession.
And yet you're acting remotely surprised, like you don't march with the GOP and tow their idiotic party line in nearly every other editorial?
Please spare us your obligatory expressions of embarrassment and tepid disapproval as they dive off the deep end, like you never saw this coming.
Dolph, when inmates overrun the asylum, you don't smirk and call their destruction "preciously inane."
These recent bills are alarmingly ignorant and seditious travesties.
You should hand the reigns to someone with the guts to actually call this out and make real use of this forum. For God's sake, let someone on your staff speak some truth to power, as this is a very real and sickening devolution we're facing.
Whoops -- yeah, must have happened because both Brownback and Dolph make me think of absolute rulers more than a strap to control a horse...
FWIW, this particular editorial was clearly not written by Dolph.
Can you tell for sure ? And even so, all the more reason to shame the contributing writers for their flacid understatements...
Lawrence, Kansas in the year 2013 deserves to have writers with fire in the belly; this cynical filler passing for an "editorial" is part of the reason the G.O.P. doesn't attract enough attention to get itself overthrown.
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