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An idea just as dumb as KK's hunt for unicorns, AKA illegal voters. Nonissue turned into yet another religious crusade.
How does one know why a woman wants an abortion? If it's legal on request, how would a law like this be enforced?
"Doctor, I know I can have an abortion legally, but I just wanted you to know that I'm doing it for gender selection, since that is illegal."
The GOP believes in the courts when protecting doctors from false claims, but doesn't believe in the courts on school finance? I'm confused...
Is anyone in Kansas even doing this? Or is this just another witch hunt?
Not if you're a girl.
I think this law does change things. It's a means to start narrowing the reasons one may seek an abortion. If the government can specify reasons that can't be used for an abortion, it implies a "valid" reason is required. It also implies the state can determine what those reasons are. This is a dangerous bill.
Passage of this law will change nothing except for the consent form that the woman signs. A paragraph will be added wherein the woman acknowledges that she understands that the law prohibits abortions for gender selection reasons, and that she is not choosing to have an abortion for such reasons.
All it does is give a few attorneys some billable hours and wastes a little paper and ink.
Nothing else will change. Assuming that there are women in Kansas who elect to have an abortion for gender selection reasons, (which I doubt), I don't think they will articulate those reasons to the abortion clinic.
Don't we have more pressing issues tg deal with?
Garrett Love is nothing more than a bought and paid for AFP goon. They let him go 'play' Senator to a season as long as he does what he is told. The bill is another rabbit trail designed to confuse and misdirect. And you see, VV, that we can have smaller government when the private and secret sector are actually controlling the shots. You don't need a bunch of clerks when you have your chosen few to rubber stamp.
This law could forbid some abortions that are done for medical reasons--for example when the embryo is defective because of an inherited gene carried on the X or Y chromosome.
Not to mention all the possibilities for the law to be misused to intimidate and harass. The provision granting husbands the right to file a complaint means that husbands, rather than the women themselves, will have effective control over whether married women can get an abortion. To prevent a woman from having an abortion, all a man would need to do is claim that she wants to do so in order to avoid having a child of a certain sex, thus making it illegal for any doctor to perform the procedure. So this provision disempowers women, even though it does not make them the direct targets of prosecution.
This is just another in a long series of ultra-intrusive laws being enacted by a State Legislature that claims that it wants "smaller government."
Well good. If 'rights can be limited', then there's no argument against gun control and regulation. Glad that's settled. But this bill smacks of yet another GOP solutions to problems that don't exist. How much time and money is wasted on stupid lawmaking while our schools, infrastructure and jobs market continue to crumble?
Senator Love is getting pretty close to the nub of the issue: where someone's life proceeding may inconvenience his/her mother who won't take any responsibility for starting that life in the first place.
But Sen. Garrett Love, a Montezuma Republican who supports the bill, said the courts would vet such claims anyway.
“The providers’ protection is the courts, the rule of law,” Love said.
Oh, now you trust the courts Sen. Love. Where's the deference when it comes to school finance?
No matter how you look at it abortion is wrong.
“It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.”
― Mother Teresa
“I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.”
― Ronald Reagan
“I certainly supported a woman's right to choose, but to my mind the time to choose was before, not after the fact.”
― Ann B. Ross
fred_mertz: "Come on, who needs an abortion for gender selection?"
The better question is: who GETS an abortion for gender selection? Outside of China, of course, since I Think this bill will only be applicable in Kansas, and not in China.
Is this a real thing? Or is it simply another tactic to chip away at abortion in total? If it's the former, where's the data? If it's the latter, why not simply be honest about it?
This sounds reasonable enough on the surface, but we all know that there is very little that's reasonable in the Anti-Choice agenda. It's a trojan horse that will be used to charge every abortion doctor with terminating every fetus with a so-called "gender selection" abortion.
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