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Don't take the perceived dis so harshly. Coming from those crazed wingnuts, I view the statements as a compliment.
Agreed!! Proud to be everything the religious right wingnuts of Western Kansas hate. I love our little blue liberal island.
Spoken like a true bigot.
Complete the following: "It takes one to…"
I'm never very impressed when Christians judge others as if they judging were GOD. It gives Christianity a bad name. Glad to know this wasn't a mainstream group.
Fine, let them childishly petition their Santa Claus-God for hours on end. We'll be over here doing actual grown-up stuff ...
"Dark spiritual areas," btw, puts the lie to the claim about praying for the economy. North Johnson County...he means the more lib--err--urban part of the county...and when he says southeast KS, I'm sure it has nothing to do this:
But very nice that Depue could add his own little dolop of dishonesty to this pathetic pile of pious excrement he calls a commission.
"Unfortunate wording" likely means "Accidentally giving Kansans the opportunity to see what I truly believe."
We would be far better off if people like Depue and the Governor had the courage of their convictions and continued to say exactly what they believe about their fellow Kansans.
Then voters could make truly informed decisions and make sure never to vote into office people who violate James Madison's assertions about religion and civil government:
"The settled opinion here is, that religion is essentially distinct from civil Government, and exempt from its cognizance; that a connection between them is injurious to both."
I wonder what Jesus would really think about these idiots who use H is name to add some sort of significance to their agenda? Personally, when I see any group or organization using Christ's name to enhance themselves, I go the other way. Who cares what "Jesus would drive??"
This "prayer" thing is just as non-sensical. Prayer is just another religious myth, and really means nothing. Why get spset at people who chose regigious dogma to enhance their political grandstanding.??
With much more setious matters tobe concerned with, I think this sham sould jest be ignored, as it deserves.
Yes, I would have been fine with the issue being dropped (or never raised in the first place) and not seeing this editorial; it strikes me as Dolph feigning offense as a ploy to keep the molehill inflated and attract more readers.
I don't think this editorial was written by Dolph, but instead, a member of the editorial staff. I think he is pretty much limited to his Saturday Column. The editorial is signed "by JW Editorial." Dolph signs his with his name.
Religion and politics. It always gets ugly when these two get together.
"We didn’t know we were part of a “dark spiritual area.” We certainly could offer significant evidence to the contrary, given Lawrence’s many active faith communities and caring social service agencies, not to mention the charitable efforts of many individual residents."
The new muscular Jesus worshiped by the conservatives believe helping the poor is evil. They are cursed because they don't believe rightly or belong to the wrong church. They bring on all their poverty to themselves, so why help them? So, to these "christians" we are a "dark spiritual area".
Nice trolling/non sequitur...
that or you're suffering dementia and meant to post someplace more relevant like here:
It seems you define a "bigot" as someone who objects when someone else tries to foist their beliefs on them instead of just being the pliant "God-fearing" sheep that you want them to be. You might look the word up to see what it really means.
The only reason that the courts have let the In God We Trust stand is because they ruled that it is "patriotic and ceremonial" and has "no theological and ritualistic impact" - basically that it is something repeated so often that it is meaningless as a religious statement. So for your point, the "In God We Trust" issue is hardly one to hang you hat on.
What does this have to do with the editorial?
I actually have a lot of pity for you. You seem like a really mean, sad person. Let me pray that you become less of a hateful person. Amen.
Perhaps we can pray that Dave DePue and the Capitol Commission overcome the dark spiritual area in their hearts and return to Christ's teaching of caring for the poor, healing the sick, and embracing the outcast.
Using a taxpayer-funded public forum to call out specific areas as morally or spiritually superior or inferior to others as part of official government business is offensive, repugnant and intolerable. Voicing opposition to such hate speech is anything but bigotry. Those in the state house need to leave their bibles at home, sober up from their religious fervor and quit goofing off on the taxpayers' dollar.
Do you have any idea why SE Kansas was included? I've never thought of SE Kansas as a hotbed of Democrats necessarily. If they were concerned about crime, you think they would have prayed for Reno County (Hutchinson) which is in central Kansas. Hutchinson area churches have been broken into several times lately.
Crawford County was a closer margin for Romney (52% to 45%) than any other county except Shawnee:
Politically, SE KS does have a leftward tradition, originally having a large Eastern European immigrant population due to the mining industry (and with that industry, labor exploitation and workers battling for better treatment, like the famous Amazon Army of miners' wives), plus having newspapers and leaders of the Populist and Socialist movements. (Upton Sincalir's The Jungle was first printed in the Appeal to Reason newspaper printed in little Girard, KS.)
Part of me thinks "dark spiritual areas" might be obliquely referencing this more distant past, but then Depue seems far too dim and simplistic to bother being that knowledgeable...
Thanks for the post. It was very informative. I had heard that Parsons was somewhat liberal, but nothing to the extent that I thought they would be singled out by right wing nuts.
One thing that is frustrating about the other extreme (the left), is their continual idea that somehow western Kansas is responsible for the nuts we have in Topeka. Western Kansas has less and less power. Here is the pre-2012 map of Kansas:
The importance of this first map is that 1 in 4 Republicans is in Johnson County. If you want Brownback out, you have to convince Johnson County that Brown back is wrong for the state. They are lots more important population wise than all the republicans in western Kansas combined.
Here are the new districts:
You're welcome--but can you clarify what events in Parsons you're referencing? Maybe you found a link to something else I haven't yet seen...
Yes, Western Kansas gets a lot of flack, and I'm sure few would guess that 1 in 4 Kansas Republicans lives in Johnson County (including me). I guess it's somewhat due to the convenience of assuming that most of the opposition is separated from us by distance, when in fact they are just next door. We also fall prey to broader geographic stereotypes, assuming that rural voters, especially in the vacuous "Great American Desert," are pre-disposed to being cutthroat, every-man-for-himself conservatives. And the margins for Romney in the west do somewhat support that stereotype. But you're right, that mine-is-mine economic Darwinist mentality is actually more rampant in the manicured suburbs where material success is everything.
I cannot recall exactly where I heard about Parsons, but I think someone brought up them having a Democratic presence around time that the state proposed cutting back on assistance to the mentally handicapped that are cared for at places such as at Parsons State Hospital.
I do think it is interesting that you brought up Crawford County. It wasn't that long ago that I found out I had ancestors who settled in the Kansas Territories in an area that is now part of Crawford County. I never knew that before. They were originally living in southern Bourbon County, but there was an Indian area that was split up south of there and the northern half became Crawley County with the addition of a few miles shaved off of the southern end of Bourbon County given to the newly formed Crawley County. Thus this branch of my ancestors changed counties without moving. I had heard that this area was known as the Cherokee Strip. However, according to this website it was known as the Neutral lands: (see area colored in cyan)
Yes there are way too many die-hard conservatives where I grew up in western Kansas.
Back to your link on the 2012 voting. It was shocking to think that Wallace County (a northwest Kansas county bordering on Colorado) had a 89.9% vote for Romney.
Nevertheless, to blame western Kansas voters for Brownback being in Topeka would be as silly as blaming the increase in statewide obesity specifically on Indian all-u-can-eat buffets. Indian food may have plenty of calories when eaten in large quantities. However, there aren't enough of them in the state to logically raise such a cause for obesity.
evidently the old saying is true....The truth hurts.
Jonas, you have really hit on it! Great work!!!
This is what happens when Church Groups decide they want to run a Government. Childish and amateurish behavior is no surprise. These people can barely run Their own Lives let alone tell us how to run ours.Stay out of my bedroom and leave my Wife's womb alone. TRY to do the job you were Elected to do. We want the Economy improved and Jobs Created. What? OH! I see That IS harder isn't it. Tough! Get to work. YOU work for ME. I AM a Voter.
Kansas has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country. You're welcome
With only 2.9 million residents to compete for a stark economy here in Kansas it is not hard to keep numbers low. Also you might want to note that most of the new job wages are either stagnant or have declined despite the fact Cost of living has increased. Kansas: Keeping you employed but still poor.
Kansas also has a high poverty rate. It is 12.5% compared to the national rate of 12.6%.
If the Natl average is 12.6% and KS is 12.5% how is that high ?
30 states do better. Read the link.
Stoplight: A Walk for the President
Hey you getting drunk, so sorry!
I've got you sussed.
Hey you smoking Mother Nature!
This is a bust!
Hey hung up old Mr. Normal,
Don't try to gain my trust!
'Cause you ain't gonna follow me any of those ways
Although you think you must
We're not gonna take
We're not gonna take it
We're not gonna take it
Never did and never will
We're not gonna take it
Gonna break it, gonna shake it,
let's forget it better still
....We're not gonna take it
We're not gonna take it
Never did and never will
Don't want (your) religion
And as far as we can tell
We ain't gonna take you
Never did and never will
We're not gonna take you
We forsake you
Gonna rape you
Let's forget you better still....
That's 30 seconds of my life I wont get back - nice read
I don't know how we could live in a dark spiritual area. All I have to do is fly by the airport, tune the radio to 122.8, and key the mike three times in 5 seconds. The runway lights will turn on high. Able to see them 5 miles away. And the KU football coach, Charlie Weis, brings in recruits and shows them the KU stadium late at night with the lights on, lets them step on the field, and look up the hill towards the Campanille, which always has a beacon of light. That is so much more light than many places.
What? Pepe DePue was talking about a different kind of light?
Never mind. . . .
+1 -- and can't believe it took so long for someone to make a Pepe Depue joke...
just when you thought the right wing nuts couldn't worse, they did. hope no one clues them in on fred or they will be protesting vets funerals and praying for alec
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