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oneeye_wilbur 3 months, 1 week ago

Mr Cromwell, you pay my new fee!

What is it going to take to make the five of you understand, we want a choice. I do not want another fee! If the stuff is so valuable, you would pay us to put it out! Do you think we are dumb?

If you want to pick up the pittance of stuff I have, then give me one small cart at no charge, just as with the garbage collection. I will put it out once a month and it will have some TV dinner trays, cardboard packaging for Depends, some Ensure containers, and a few cardboard boxes denture cleaner tablets came in. I'll throw in the container that the hemeroid cream game in, well a lot of containers as we will need plenty of it with your dumb ideas.

Focus on real job creation and jobs for Deffenbaugh or anyone else similar.

Did_I_say_that 3 months, 1 week ago

Where is all the glass coming from? We dispose of, maybe, one glass pickle jar a month. I think I know the answer, but must ask: What consumables do you use that requires glass disposal?

rlmtyco 3 months, 1 week ago

BEER. this town produces TONS of glass, go look in any dumpsters downtown, college areas of towns, dumpsters at apartment complexes, etc.

momof4 3 months, 1 week ago

Salsa, jelly, Worcestershire sauce, soy sauce, horseradish sauce, Tabasco sauce, the hot peppers, BBQ sauce, and wing sauce my husband likes come in glass jars. Spaghetti and pasta sauce, some salad dressings, not to mention the occasional beer, liquor and wine bottles. Glass is not the biggest item we recycle, but our family definitely has a need for glass recycling.

desertrose 3 months ago

If one jar takes a million years to break down and a million people throw 1 jar away a week or month, it can add up quickly and stay there for along time.

George_Braziller 3 months, 1 week ago

It takes me more than a year to even fill one bag with enough glass to make it worth the trip to one of the free recycling locations. Bars and restaurants however have massive amounts of recyclable glass everyday. Maybe that's why Schumm supports it.

ljreader 3 months, 1 week ago

I thought downtown doesn't have to participate in the recycling mandate.

Katara 3 months, 1 week ago

“We have really high satisfaction ratings with our trash service, and that is what we want with our recycling service too,” Carter said. “That’s why this can’t just be about selecting the lowest cost provider.”

You did have really high satisfaction ratings until you decided to force everyone to use the city's carts and pay for something they did not need.

NickDanger 3 months, 1 week ago

I support all recycling efforts. Happy to pay the nominal fee.

toe 3 months, 1 week ago

Most in Lawrence support any fee for anything. If the city charged a fat fee, you would gladly pay. How about a fee for red cars? Most would gladly pay.

ljreader 3 months, 1 week ago

I don't want another gigantic cart. I don't want to pay to do something I already do for free. I don't want to put private recycling enterprises out of business. I do not want to pay to buy them out. The usage AND fees should be voluntary. If I don't want it, won't use it, I shouldn't have to pay for it. I feel like sending a bill to the City for storing their huge carts on my property. It's that much more space I cannot use for my own enjoyment, I have no place to store these eyesores, and it's gonna be a real kick to move all this crap around when I'm mowing. It sounds like a good deal- if you want it. It sounds like crazy talk to make us pay for this whether or not we will use it. I already recycle. I don't need to be forced. There is no guarantee that those who do not recycle will suddenly change their ways because they have another cart. Is the City going to go through our trash and fine us if they find a newspaper or plastic bottle with the garbage?

oxymoron 3 months, 1 week ago

i agree about the cart size. However, my family is moving away from canned goods (because of BPA) and glass is the alternative. Glass does add up. Would love curb side recycle.

peartree 3 months, 1 week ago

We too use more glass and fewer cans to avoid the plastic lining. It really does add up in a household with more than a person or two. To the people who recycle now by taking it in yourself and are angry that they will have to pay now, I'd suggest as responsible, concerned people perhaps you would see the benefit to the environment if recycling were made universal in Lawrence. I know it will be a pain to pay a fee and keep a cart, but this effort will prevent a huge amount of trash and pollution. It is of course a personal sacrifice, but it has great rewards.

ljreader 3 months, 1 week ago

How do you know that this will make recycling "universal"? It only makes paying for it universal. What's preventing people from throwing their recyclables in with the garbage? How is this "universal" when businesses - who generate huge amounts of waste-will not be required to participate???

kuguardgrl13 3 months ago

"What's preventing people from throwing their recyclables in with the garbage?"

It adds to landfill. If plastic bottles and aluminum cans aren't recycled, then Coke, Pepsi, and other soda companies produce more so they can continue to use their products. If the containers are continually recycled, I'm sure a certain amount is lost in the process, but at least some is able to be used again. If you throw it away it's gone forever. Those of us in Gen Y were taught this as small children. Many of us have grown up in the suburbs of a number of cities where curbside recycling has been around since the 90s or earlier. If Lawrence wants to fill up these empty apartments and eventually the houses, they will attract young people by having a recycling system that doesn't require filling up your car and wasting the gas to drive to Walmart.

Cant_have_it_both_ways 3 months, 1 week ago

This is what happens when you let government get to big. There is someone down at city hall that does not have enough to do and feels the need to justify their job. This type of thing happens over and over to us. No one is against recycling, but we already have the program in place provided by the private sector. What are these taxpayers going to do when an activity that only consumes tax dollars competes with them and puts them out of business? If they want people to recycle glass, then make set up places to buy it from the consumers like they do with cans, otherwise leave it alone.

merrill 3 months, 1 week ago

I still want Sunflower curbside to pick our recycling up.....

The city can still do their thing which I support.

skinny 3 months, 1 week ago

I see a class action lawsuit coming!!

KRichards 3 months, 1 week ago

That is asinine. Cities all over the country do this, completely legally.

ljreader 3 months, 1 week ago

A GLASS action suit, anyway.

weiser 3 months, 1 week ago

They keep thinking of ways to take our money. Make the top 1 percent of citizens pay it all for the rest of us. Hussein might give the city a prize for adopting his model!

alfie 3 months, 1 week ago

I don't mind the recycling, but "can" the large "can" idea.

snitty 3 months, 1 week ago

I'm delighted that Lawrence is finally getting serious about recycling. May I suggest that you hold off on issuing more containers. Most people still have their old trash cans, and there is a big disparity in the amount of trash that each household produces.

Topple 3 months, 1 week ago

Why is no one proposing different can sizes? I don't need, or have room for a 96-gallon recycling container.

Corey Williams 3 months, 1 week ago

http://lawrenceks.org/wrr/carts 35, 65, 95 gallon. "...residents who wish to receive a larger or smaller cart can call the Solid Waste Division at (785) 832-3032 or fill out an online form for an exchange."

jafs 3 months, 1 week ago

I don't think that applies to the recycling program, at least as currently proposed.

They're planning to issue everybody the largest size container for recycling.

Corey Williams 3 months, 1 week ago

"All recommendations also assume customers would be issued a 96-gallon plastic cart..." Which would be silly because they would either have to devise a way to compartmentalize it or pay people to sort it.

mommaeffortx2 3 months, 1 week ago

Well ok take glass don't take glass what ever it still not right to force people. For anyone who does not know that liquor store on mass next to dillons has a container just for glass.

tomatogrower 3 months, 1 week ago

I am tired of people who think they have a right to consume, consume, consume, but not recycle. Yes, I feel sorry for those who already recycle, and want to keep doing it their way, but I'm tired of seeing people dump TV's, computers, cans, bottles, plastic. There is only so much room in the landfills. Can we dig up your back yard to put some in? Geez. It's not that hard. And the city program will make it even easier at a measly cost. I have grandchildren and in the next few years will probably have great grandchildren. I do not want them to live on top of your stupid, selfish trash heap. Sorry the carts offend your aesthetic sensibility. I'm sure that you are one of those people who pour chemicals on lawns, so you can grow grass that is not native to Kansas, and waste water keeping it alive, so you can mow it down. Why not get off you duff and grow some food on that lawn, and recycle. I'll bet you could get enough exercise you could drop that gym membership, and actually save money.

toe 3 months, 1 week ago

Population control is the only effect means of conservation and preservation. Too many people. The rub is trying to figure out which ones need to go. Coming soon to a health care program of your choice.

Katara 3 months, 1 week ago

If they are that stupid, lazy and selfish making them pay for recycling is not going to change that behavior.

And since you feel sorry for me since I already recycle for free and do not wish to be forced into paying for something I will not use, I will send you the bill for the increased fees and you can pay for it. It is the least you can do since I already exhibit the behavior you wish to force on everyone else and I have been doing it without being forced to.

waitjustaminute 3 months, 1 week ago

The City has no business being in the recycling business.

oneeye_wilbur 3 months, 1 week ago

Why isn't Hugh Carter requiring the bars to recycle glass and have them pay more?

if the recyclables are so valuable, why wouldn't we be paid for or cardboard and glass and newspapers and plastics?

The city is not getting my metals! They can be sold, I get te money.

These commissioners are pushing for this because they can only do this. They cannot create jobs, but only forDefenaughand Hamm.

Katara 3 months, 1 week ago

Why does the city want to deprive the schools money and deprive the disabled jobs?

If the city is going to force everyone to use their services then the schools will lose the money they get from their recycle bins they provide.

If the city is going to force everyone to use their services then the Walmart recycle center will no longer need folks from CLO to work there.

And what is the city going to do when the price of recycling exceeds the price received for the recycled materials like in 2009? http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/jun...

"But Kathy Richardson, the city’s operations supervisor for waste reduction and recycling, confirmed that the market for at least four materials the city collects — corrugated cardboard, newspapers, office paper and mixed paper — remains down.

Through the first five months of this year, she said, the city had generated $35,000 in revenue from such materials. For the same period a year ago — and for essentially the same amount collected — the city had received $112,000.

“That gives you a picture,” she said."

oneeye_wilbur 3 months, 1 week ago

She did not disclose the expenses associated such as salaries and the building the city stores cardboard in

breeav 3 months, 1 week ago

I have always recycled in Lawrence; I have used private recycling companies in the past and am currently running my own recycling. I am very excited to have a city-wide option because it's going to be much cheaper than private options and will end up providing a more consistent service. When I take into consideration the gas I use to drive to a recycling facility (which is across town now that the east Lawrence recycling center is closed to the public), and the time that it takes me to sort and run recycling, I think I will end up saving time and money with this city wide option. I understand the concern for private companies going out of business, but really it will eliminate some jobs and create others in their place. As someone who believes in recycling, I think that it may take some adjustment but ultimately there will be fewer resources ending up in our landfills and that should be our main concern.

Katara 3 months, 1 week ago

How much are you consuming if it takes you that much time to sort your recyclables?

Many of the schools have recycling bins. They get money for the recyclables. Why not take your recyclables to the closest school?

sunny 3 months, 1 week ago

Its too bad the Commissioners don't focus on creating jobs in Lawrence. Instead they sit around and think of ways to force citizens to pay for something they don't want!

ljreader 3 months, 1 week ago

I bet the carbon footprint left by the manufacture of tens of thousands of 96 gallon plastic carts is worse than some newspapers tossed in the trash. No, sunny- there is no focus on jobs. There is no focus on saving the citizens' money by cutting spending. All they do is sit around and dream up ways to spend more of our money for pet projects where pet cronies will benefit. Why do we even need Commissioners?

Downtoearth 3 months, 1 week ago

Did not read all commets but I sure don't want to pay for recycling glass. I may have one or two jars of class containers a month. Most of our drinks/foods come in plastic. I do favor recycling plastic. Get real Hugh!!

oneeye_wilbur 3 months, 1 week ago

The city involvement isbNOT an option, it is forced.

sunny 3 months, 1 week ago

This is almost the most absurd idea yet! Adding more to my City bill...do these commissioners not understand that there are no good paying jobs in Lawrence? They are nickel and diming me to death!

desertrose 3 months ago

I started to recycle my glass a couple years ago after I found out how many years it takes to break down in a landfill. 1 MILLION YEARS. If that means hauling it to a recycle place and doing that for the future of my kids & grandkids then I will continue to do it. I think it should be free or very affordable and made easier to recycle so that everyone can recycle. I also think alot of people are not aware of the environmental factor and this should be very important for everyone to do. I was unaware until recently that it takes... 200-500 years for aluminum cans 250 years for plastic cups 30-40 years for nylon fabric 10-20 years for plastic trash bags 5 years for plastic cups