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It isn't only union wages that go down. It's most wages. If all unions get busted and those millions upon millions are receiving less that translates into most all other workers making less money because workers across America will quit spending money.

When workers quit spending money what happens for the long term?

People go out of business thus more job losses.

Carpenters,plumbers and electricians go out of business because workers cannot afford more houses.

Property values sink because there is no money and foreclosures continue to rise.

New auto sales will slump AGAIN.

MORE retirement plans will go up in smoke because Wall Street will take a dive because spending which drives investors is no where to be found.

Millions more will not be able to pay for medical insurance.

Sales taxes will increase because all other tax sources have gone up in smoke.

Infrastructure will go longer without maintenance and/or replacement.

This is but a short list.

UneasyRider 4 months, 2 weeks ago

Could someone explain why it says there are 4 comments and only 1 is available to read?

DoubtingThomas 4 months, 2 weeks ago

Probably The Editors thought the posts were off topic and removed them. They have been doing that alot lately. Merrill was prolific on this topic.

frankfussman 4 months, 2 weeks ago

I don't know...maybe Merrill's comments count more.

DoubtingThomas 4 months, 2 weeks ago

Well, there were 3. Now 1.I don't know.

Renaissance 4 months, 2 weeks ago

I think something is wrong with LJworld; about 1/2 of my posts this week haven't ever posted

Cant_have_it_both_ways 4 months, 2 weeks ago

State Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, D-Topeka, whose district includes part of Douglas County, said the next anti-union bill to surface in the Legislature is House Bill 2123, which would eliminate paycheck deductions for union dues and make collective bargaining optional. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ YES!!!! It should read Pro-taxpayer bill...but oh well.

Nikonman 4 months, 2 weeks ago

You can have utility bills, credit card payments, car payments, etc., deducted from your bank account every month if you so choose. So what's the problem here? If the unions want regular payments, just have them take it out of your account each month. I'm sure most banks do this now.

chootspa 4 months, 2 weeks ago

You can have United Way donations directly withdrawn from your paycheck, too. So what's the problem? Why change it?

KSManimal 4 months, 2 weeks ago

The problem, Nikonman, is that the majority of the bill has nothing to do with paycheck deductions, and everything to do with revoking free speech. Since the JW and other media outlets continue to IGNORE this part of HB 2023; I will share it here AGAIN (for about the fifth or sixth time):

"It shall be a prohibited practice for a public employee organization to endorse candidates, or spend any of its income, including any income in the form of or derived from any dues, fees, assessments or any other periodic payments, directly or indirectly, to engage in political activities as defined in paragraph (2). (2) For the purposes of this section, "political activities" means any activity carried out for the purpose of influencing, in whole or part, any election for a state, local government or board of education office, including activities or causes of a partisan political or ideological nature engaged in by a public employee organization for such purpose, and including contributions to a political committee, continuing political employee committee, or both, for the purpose of aiding or promoting the endorsement, nomination, election or defeat of any candidate for public office of the state or of a county, municipality or school district, or the passage or defeat of any public question."

Any of you who still think this is about payroll deduction...please explain how the above - cut & pasted directly from HB 2023 - has anything whatsoever to do with paycheck deductions?

JayhawkFan1985 4 months, 2 weeks ago

The GOP thinks the world is divided into makers and takers. I think the entire GOP is made up of haters. I hope the rest of us are love and respecters.

Renaissance 4 months, 2 weeks ago

I would argue that those who spend endlessly with no means of actually paying the tab (both Dems and Repubs alike) must hate their grandchildren and children. Our growing national debt is the greatest threat our country faces.

buffalo63 4 months, 2 weeks ago

"collective bargaining optional", yeah I can see where this is heading. Brownie didn't say NO to this but gives cover those who refuse to bargain. It is the my way or the highway, trample on worker rights, screw the "takers" mentality. Oh! I forgot, it's the teachers fault we are this mess.

lunacydetector 4 months, 2 weeks ago

there are a lot of people who will take their windfall of no state income tax and buy something nice. there will be people that no longer want their "mandatory" union dues taken out and they'll go buy themselves something nice....cry me a river. nice platform for these politicians though at our local chamber of frat rat / sorority girl phony baloney non-commercers (because they've never had to work at all or they work for the government-almost the same thing).

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