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probably best to get KU's blessing and promise not to compete, ever, and in writing.
There's already a branch of a local community college in Lawrence: http://www.jccc.edu/close-to-home/close-to-home-lawrence.html
So is this discussion with another college, or do they just want the campus to expand its offerings?
I would think it would be JCCC. There are already a large number of KU students who take non-degree classes at Johnson County instead of KU gen eds.
Aren't they already here at centennial.
Probably should get DeVry.
DeVry is a private for-profit and costs much more while providing less value.
With the list of names, god forbid!
Greg Williams is quite likely on the money. The need was recognized about 10 years ago. Better late than never. Not everyone needs or wants to attend a 4 year institution.
Move the $25 million from the Field House project to a Vo-Tech campus. This will provide better paying jobs which will be supported in large part by tuition and fees. People like attending school in Lawrence,Kansas.
Now we're on to something...
About commerce ...BTW does anyone know of any Rubbermaid buildings or cabinets for sale.
"Move the $25 million from the Field House project to a Vo-Tech campus. "
.... I think you ARE on to something there.
Bring the tech certificate programs to Lawrence like HVAC. Use Eco Devo funds to support.
This is truly a job creator unlike the "make already rich people richer" programs we have now.
Teach people a salable trade skill . Invest in our own Lawrence !
Please explain the make rich, richer programs to which you refer...I would like to take advantage of them.
"Lawrence Mayor Bob Schumm said the need for more vocational training opportunities became evident when Lawrence recently was eliminated as a finalist for a manufacturing plant for wind-generating equipment, in part, because the company wanted to be in an area with more vocational training.
“I think technical education is one of the big missing pieces of the puzzle,” Schumm said."
JCCC is only 20 miles away. They in fact are set up to train in the areas of new energy construction and maintenance...... last I heard.
That seemed weird to me as well. The metro has several community colleges.
20 miles is a long, long way for a young adult trying to work a job and go to school. The young and working poor cannot afford a reliable car, yet less the fuel, etc., or the time between work and studies. "Distance learning" can be more feasible, but you really need an on-site campus in town. KU should see it as a benefit to have a "feeder", but I suspect they fear they cannot compete for the GenEd enrollment, where they charge PhD tuition for Grad Asst teachers.
I agree Lawrence could use a junior college. My point was there are numerous educational institutions within an easy commute for those with cars, so it seemed odd that a company would reject Lawrence based on this factor.
There's a bus that goes back and forth, but it does take more time to commute. It's also not an option for high school students who want to take advantage of state funded tech programs.
I think an expanded Lawrence campus would be great for the community. You just have to get KU off their back about what they can offer here. From what I've gathered, that's been the biggest hurdle. KU doesn't want a single program or class to be a duplicate of a KU offering. That actually wipes out a lot of technical programs and two year degrees. You need to take English and math for an associate's degree.
Spent some time in Gainesville, Florida, home of the University of Florida. They have Santa Fe College, a community college with enrollment over 20,000. It not only serves the role of technical education, but also is a conduit for students wanting to attend the competitive University, and it brings a lot of young people into the community. It didn't ever seem like it was considered a threat to the larger University, but only as complimentary. Both Santa Fe and UF benefited from the other's presence, and Santa Fe has a "gateway" program designed to deliver AA grads to the programs at UF.
If KU is serious about raising admission standards, and truly being about competitive admissions, it would be good to have an alternative path for those ready to get serious and work for a spot.
(plus, a local JuCo is a great place to stash non-qualifying athletes and get their grades up!)
This, exactly. KU can up their admissions standards and allow easier matriculation for JCCC students if they work together to make sure all the courses meet KU's standards. JCCC can also spend more time on remedial courses for those students who need it, and that means they don't have to deal with that stupid new law about state funding for remedial courses. By the time a student going through JCCC gets to KU, they'll have a much greater chance at actually graduating.
Both higher selective admissions and higher graduation rates will mean better US News rankings for the college, and everyone wins.
Well, except in the short term, when KU sees a drastic drop in the number of people enrolled in basic studies courses. But, come on. We all already know you can take them much cheaper at Juco. Work on recruiting those higher out of state tuition dollars to make up for it. Or prove that your university is worth the higher fees.
Bingo. If not they have to go Coffeyville or Hutchinson.
Maintaining and upgrading equipment for VoTech programs is expensive. Auto mechanics, for example, is very computerized and changing. Business and industry needs to set up training programs using their equipment and in their facilities. A community college can provide support in accounting and so on. Tax dollars cannot afford to support equipment related curricula.
Unless the businesses that would benefit are also part of the tax base.
It seems that Johnson County Community College has already made a commitment to Lawrence since they offer classes here. Why "recruit" a college when they are already here. Work with them on expanding the curriculum to offer what the community leaders would like to see offered. I've taken classes there and think they are a wonderful school.
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