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8 May 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…

Sequester the waste.
A know a man who had a child with a sequestered nun.
“She” picked him, not the other way around.
Let's hope the “sequestered” waste doesn't have a run of hormonal need to procreate.
(That man's now a religious and dating wreck! )
And just how does a man explain that to his son?
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Let's create a fund to pay for the other half of Mike's facelift, okay kids?
(Sorry Mike, but someone was going to notice :D )
8 May 2008
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jonas (Anonymous) says…

Everything I've read suggests that coal pollution just leads to cancer, whereas nuclear pollution leads to sweet mutations like super strength and invisibility. So definitely nuclear.
8 May 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…

I found two yolks in my egg this morning.(Twice in one 18 carton)
I wondered if people used to burn at the stake for having such things.
Like frogs with 5 legs.
Did they blame all bad things on the man who discovered flint fire making?
The wheel?
The fork?
8 May 2008
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RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Anonymous) says…

Neither…
Build more landfills.
Use the landfills to generate biogas.
Build biogas generators for power generation.

Damn, the perfect solution!
You could even use it to power a Prius…
It would be analogous to Prii owners driving around on granola farts.
8 May 2008
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jonas (Anonymous) says…

“Use the landfills to generate biogas. ” … . is that bio-gas?

Because biogas read as a contiguous word sounds pretty exotic. bee YO gez. The plural of bioga. It sounds like some sort of mutated pack-pig. But you're right, I'm sure they Would be a highly effective form of energy generator if harnessed properly.
8 May 2008
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…

There's lots of BTUs in a fur seal.
8 May 2008
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…

Nuclear. Given other choices, I'd be most interested in seeing a lot more money put into R & D for solar and wind power. If/when they find a way to make those more profitable and cost efficient, that will be the way to go. Solar, especially, poses challenges, but the potential is endless.
8 May 2008
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canyon_wren (Anonymous) says…

That's like asking whether you would rather have cancer or AIDS.
8 May 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…

jonas,
SCJohnson & Co. has a new ad on tv about how they used landfill gas to power their Glade and what is it, bathroom cleaner? plant.

R_I watches tv commercials, I have no idea if he watches the shows.
As in, WOW. I say it louder.
;D
8 May 2008
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…

Wait! Here's something more pressing.

In the Obituaries, if you look up “Pearl Wertzberger,” the accompanying photo shows a man in a suit. Reading the obituary, you find that Pearl was indeed a woman, and not a man with an odd name. Come on, LJW, fix the photo problem before grieving relatives have to call and berate you.

Come to think of it, I wonder if there's some man's obit today carrying the photo of Pearl. I haven't looked at them all. Please—a quick fix is in order.
8 May 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…

This probably started at the funeral home. I believe they email the obit and pix to LJW.
8 May 2008
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geppetto (Anonymous) says…

It is a lie that we need that much energy! But that's not the questions. I would support cleaner burning Coal. I would stay away from anything that has a half-life of at least 7,000 years.
I don't want the next war to be against giant roaches!
8 May 2008
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blue73harley (Anonymous) says…

Nuclear. They create such lovely sunsets.

http://zvis.com/nuclear/dimg.php3?ivy…
8 May 2008
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…

Sure enough—the last Obit, for a Mr. Jerry Wilhite, shows a lovely young woman—most likely Pearl in her youth.

Wherever the problem started, anyone looking at what they're doing would realize that these photos had been inadvertently switched. I hope the correction is made soon. At a time like this, the families do not need any added annoyances. I lost my dad last June and we would have been highly irritated if our hometown paper had switched out his photo with a lady's. Later, I guess, you might see some humor in it. But in those first few days, the wound is too raw.
8 May 2008
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jumpin_catfish (Anonymous) says…

Nuke plants make me glow!
8 May 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…

And all this time I thought it was his Night Glow!
Do they also cause male enhancement?
8 May 2008
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

“Everything I've read suggests that coal pollution just leads to cancer, whereas nuclear pollution leads to sweet mutations like super strength and invisibility. So definitely nuclear.” Jonas

Exactly.

Although, biogas (actually, biogi plurally) is probably the way to go.
8 May 2008
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KsTwister (Anonymous) says…

Both need abundant amounts of water…………………good luck with that Kansas.
8 May 2008
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TopJayhawk (Anonymous) says…

I gotta go coal. I just don't really trust the whole nuke thing… I think leaving all the radioactive waste for later is worse than leaving our kids with a deficit, or dirty air.
Not that I like coal either. There just isn't any free ride when it comes to energy.
8 May 2008
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conservativepunker (Anonymous) says…

Coal,by God. It's better for the State's economy.
8 May 2008
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average (Anonymous) says…

Kansas will need more electricity. I'm pro-conservation. My electric bills are damned low. But, we will need more electricity, particularly as we start down the path of more plug-in electric cars and fewer petroleum-burning cars.

Unfortunately, decades of cheap, pollution-ignored coal and fear have held us back from getting to work on improved, refined, and simplified nuclear plants.

And, for those who aren't aware, Lawrencians get about 100 times the radiation dose from Uranium and Thorium emitted in the flue gases and only nominally restrained ash piles at our KPL coal plant than the people of Coffey County do from Wolf Creek.
8 May 2008
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sunflower_sue (Anonymous) says…

I thought biogas (biogii) were those little pockets of dough filled with cabbage and onion. Either way, you still end up with an abundance of gas. “A bun dance of gas.” He, I crack myself up.
8 May 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…

oh that was so bad sue!
lol
8 May 2008
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Orwell (Anonymous) says…

This is just like the choice they gave Gary Gilmore hanging or firing squad.

And the plural of “bioga” is neither biogas” not “biogi.” It's “biogae.” The nice thing about a dead language is that it's pretty constant.
8 May 2008
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

Biogae it is!

The nice thing about dead languages is that I never learned no part of nuttin about 'em.

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Sue - Are you thinking of bierochs? Cabbage and seasoned beef. Ummmm, German food.
8 May 2008
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ylimeh (Anonymous) says…

“That's like asking whether you would rather have cancer or AIDS.”

Ha, you got it.

I'm pretty disappointed that not one of them used “neither” as a response.
8 May 2008
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sgtwolverine (Anonymous) says…

“There just isn't any free ride when it comes to energy.”

Now that was refreshing.
8 May 2008
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ksuone1 (Anonymous) says…

so hug a tree…
it takes money to make money and that at an expense of something here that is precious to some or all….
The motivation shouldn't be political or at the expense of simple folks and their simple ways or life and this is America so the “green heads” have to realize there are cost….and results…good and bad to all but you have to do something not just wait and wait until it is too late.
We need power so short term…coal ….long term nuclear
I say we build a coal synthesize plant here …..now today …..
8 May 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…

The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says:

Biogae it is!

The nice thing about dead languages is that I never learned no part of nuttin about 'em.

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Sue - Are you thinking of bierochs? Cabbage and seasoned beef. Ummmm, German food.
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TOB,
If you're going to have the deciding vote, you better get with Wikipedia about that. LOL

Careful of the spellin'. They are tarring and feathering a Community Shelter information share-er
for not being able to spell on the stabbing thread.

TOB..In Lawrence those are called Runzas.They may be savory, but they cause gastric heck later.
8 May 2008
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sgtwolverine (Anonymous) says…

I would prefer they pursue nucular power. It seems to be gaining popularity.
8 May 2008
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belexus73 (Anonymous) says…

Can I also say whether I prefer crack or heroin? The question assumes those two methods for boiling water are the only two choices we will have in the mid-future for baseload power.
8 May 2008
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jonas (Anonymous) says…

“Although, biogas (actually, biogi plurally) is probably the way to go.”

Do not slander the noble bioga!

UhClem: Yeah, that's the best professional terminology. Biogas is more of a vernacular usage.
8 May 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…

Biogas holds up well under googling.
8 May 2008
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sunflower_sue (Anonymous) says…

Recipe for classic BIOGAE:

ingredients
2 cups milk, lukewarm
1/4 cup vegetable oil
2 eggs, beaten
2 (.25 ounce) packages active dry yeast
1/2 cup white sugar
1 teaspoon salt
6 cups all-purpose flour
2 pounds lean ground beef
1 onion, chopped
1/2 medium head cabbage, chopped
18 slices American cheese

directions
To Make Dough: In a large bowl, mix together milk and oil. Stir in eggs, yeast, sugar, salt and 5 cups of flour. Mix well adding remaining cup of flour as necessary to form kneadable dough. Knead for a few minutes, then cover bowl and let dough rise one hour in a warm place.
To Make Filling: Brown beef in a large saucepan; do not drain juices. Add onion and cabbage to skillet and continue cooking until onion is soft; add salt and pepper to taste. Let cool.
After dough has risen, roll out hunks of dough (about the size of tennis balls) as thin as possible. Place 1/2 slice of cheese on dough, top with filling, then place other 1/2 of cheese on top of filling. Fold over and seal like a turnover (moistening edges with water may help seal them). Place on a baking sheet.
Bake in a preheated 350 degrees F (175 degrees C) oven for 30 minutes or until golden brown.
8 May 2008
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Windlass (Anonymous) says…

I would prefer that the legislature go home, stay there, and do no more legislating that may make our lives better. Please, take a hike without further delay.
8 May 2008
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bd (Anonymous) says…

Nuke'm
“KsTwister!”
Wolf creek does not use up our presious water!
It has a recirculating cooling lake !

Most coal plants use cooling towers where some water is lost through steam evaporation!
8 May 2008
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Poon (Anonymous) says…

To the editor:
Nuclear is what I would consider the ultimate in power generation: no air pollution, less digging, and the ability to serve many customers. Unfortunately, as it applies to local lobbying in both Topeka and Washington, D.C., arguing for my favorite power has become an issue. This is not because of the lack of great potential of nuclear generation in the USA, but because of the lack of knowledge of the politicians who could approve it.

It never fails that when I lobby for nuclear power (Prounced nuke lee-err), the elected official goes out of their way to “correct” me with the Kansas-fied bastardization “Nuke-u-lure” Not only does this make the elected official look like a fool, it insults the lobbyist who is being corrected with an incorrect pronunciation.

Poon just couldn't restrain himself…
8 May 2008
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KsTwister (Anonymous) says…

Bd: And just how do you think they are going to recycle water BACK into the Aquifer? Let alone that this electricity will not be for Kansans anyway.
8 May 2008
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Oracle_of_Rhode (Anonymous) says…

Wind and solar are the best options for the future of our children and our planet.

But, given these limited choices, I'd pick nuclear over coal.

Let's find a place for the waste, though. Perhaps Missouri…
8 May 2008
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RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Anonymous) says…

jonas,
I haven't seen the commercial for biogas power generation from a biomass landfill.
I would really just like to go “off-grid”.
I have been researching generating and using biogas to heating my domestic hot water, radiant heating system, cooktop, oven, and maybe the clothes dryer.
There are actually many communities here in the U.S. that are generating power from landfill biomass, however, most are fairly small scale.
Most biogas production is from anaerobic digestion of manure.
GE has a engine called the Jenbach engine designed to use biogas that is manufactured in Jenbach, Austria. (That is pronounced yÄn-bahkh).
Since it is Austrian and not French it's pretty cool.
8 May 2008
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sgtwolverine (Anonymous) says…

Actually, freight trains are considerably more efficient than trucks.
8 May 2008
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ralphralph (Anonymous) says…

I may have mentioned this before ….
Nuclear is Clean, Safe & Reliable.
None of the alternatives have all of those attributes.
It is the only rational choice.
We need to get started now if we are going to increase our capacity to generate electricity … Plants of ANY kind won't go up overnight.
Nuclear at Wolf Creek makes sense. Let's do it now.
9 May 2008
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hornhunter (Anonymous) says…

I'll use coal.
And our future alternative power can come from funeral homes, Cremation Power & Light.
9 May 2008
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RiverCityConservative (Anonymous) says…

That's an artificial choice. Nuclear fission produces radiation with a very long half-life; coal burning impacts the atmosphere in ways that mean we don't make it to the end of that half-life. I don't think the governor is suggesting jumping from the frying pan into the fire like that. And some history—it was popular to build nuclear plants in the 1970s. That is why Wolf Creek got built despite the fact Kansas didn't need the energy it was going to add. Someone made money on that deal and I like the way the governor is standing up to the moneyed interests pushing new coal in Western Kansas. Three cheers for Governor Kathleen Sebelius! Keep Kansas green.
9 May 2008
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labmonkey (Anonymous) says…

Although the electricity may go out of state, hundreds of high paying jobs will be in state….paid for by customers from other states. This money will then be spent in our state…..that's good for our economy. I don't care what kind of plants they build….I just hope they build something. Pollution is much less than most people think as the only thing that comes out the stacks of a coal plant anymore is water (gov't regulations are very, very tight).

We better be careful….in the future I can just see the grid being supplied from very dirty coal plants in Mexico where the laws are much more lax and power companies don't have to worry about all the regulations they do now (not to mention the labor would be much cheaper….no IBEW). You don't want any plants built, be very careful what you wish for.
9 May 2008
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navyjayhawk (Anonymous) says…

Nuclear…I could use the job.
10 May 2008
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snowWI (Anonymous) says…

labmonkey,
Why do you have a southern bias? Our power could just as well come from Canada instead of Mexico. We already are seeing huge oil shale developments in Canada that supply the US with our oil needs.